UCLA official resigns over racial admissions

oc register ^ | 8-28-2008 | MARLA JO FISHER

[stan_sipple]

A professor who said he suspects UCLA is cheating to illegally admit black students resigned Thursday from its admissions committee, saying the university refused to provide him the data he needs to investigate his suspicions. "A growing body of evidence strongly suggests that UCLA is cheating on admissions," political science Professor Tim Groseclose wrote in a report he released Thursday. "Specifically, applicants often reveal their own race on the essay portion of the application."Students typically report their race on their applications, but the people who evaluate their files don't see names, race or ethnicity. If race does come up in an application essay, it's supposed to be ignored, said Janina Montero, vice chancellor for student affairsCampus officials have been under intense pressure to increase numbers of black students, particularly since a 2006 public outcry over the fact that only 96 of the nearly 5,000 freshmen who enrolled at the prestigious campus were African American. This year, 235 black freshmen plan to enroll for the fall term, about 5 percent of the freshman class and more than double the 2006 number. "There's circumstantial evidence to suggest some back door racial preferences are going on," Groseclose said.

[alexander_busek]

Students typically report their race on their applications...

I wonder WHICH races are most likely to allude to their race on their college application forms? I can't imagine many White people referring to the "anguish" of being confronted with their "racial identity," etc. Although I suppose that there might be a lot of liberals who want to flaunt their "shame" and milk it for all it's worth, à la "As the privileged scion of an upper-class WASP family, early on I strove to reach out to classmates of other races..."

Regards,

[stan_sipple]

our grandkids will need that line to get into college in 2040

[wardaddy]

My daughter just entered David Lipscomb.

I can tell you that race and gender are the most important qualifications for acceptance and aid.

Period.

[alexander_busek]

our grandkids will need that line to get into college in 2040

One "remedy" would be to announce that any applicant mentioning his or her racial background on the application form would be instantly disqualified.

Regards,

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

It sounds like a Janet Cooke style of essay would give you a better chance of entering UCLA. Just write it as if you were black, without actually necessarily saying so in so many words. Readers suddenly think your writing puts Ernest Hemingway to shame.

[dennisw]

I wonder WHICH races are most likely to allude to their race on their college application forms? I can't imagine many White people referring to the "anguish" of being confronted with their "racial identity," etc. Although I suppose that there might be a lot of liberals who want to flaunt their "shame" and milk it for all it's worth, à la "As the privileged scion of an upper-class WASP family, early on I strove to reach out to classmates of other races..."

Vietnamese could easily be mentioning race such as their family being boat people escaping from Vietnam
Matter of fact Black admissions are way up and Vietnamese are way down

Groseclose said that, at the same time black enrollments went up, low-income Vietnamese enrollments went down.
Low-income Vietnamese applicants are typically among the most disadvantaged, he said, because few had parents who attended college and they often overcome grave hardships to enroll.
UCLA figures showed Vietnamese admissions dipped from 270 in 2006 to 207 for the coming fall.

Looks like the usually lying and cover up from academia

[livius]

Asians have always been punished in the California system, mostly because it was perceived that they were a minority that actually had the nerve to study and do well in school. This means that they didn’t need the sacred government to do everything for them. The nerve!

[Alia]

From article: One of the most sought-after campuses in the United States, University of California, Los Angeles has been banned since before Proposition 209 from using race as an admissions criteria, along with other state public universities.

This happened, and huge thanks goes to one Mr. A. Favish who exposed the corruptions.

[AlbertWang]

Step 1- write your essay
Step 2- Run it through the Jive translator here http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/
Step 3- Profit!

[kabar]

It will be interesting to track those students and see how many actually get a degree. And how many received athletic scholarships if those are part of the number.

[Hebrews 11:6]

UCLA officials have complained in the past that private universities such as USC and Stanford can "pick off" the best and brightest black students, because they can offer better financial aid.

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OUR MEN FIGHT ON TO VICTORY
OUR ALMA MATER DEAR
LOOKS UP TO YOU
FIGHT ON AND WIN FOR OLD SC
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FIGHT ON!

[purpleraine]

We had an interesting discussion in our headquarters circa 1989. I mentioned that Cal was 2.7% Asian (IIRC at the time) and that our workforce was 6%. I said that Asians were overrepresented by 100% and that we should hire fewer Asians. You should have seen the look on the AA advocates faces.

I worked with many Asians in Sacramento and know many now in our area, but I never heard any of them support AA. I think if we went by the numbers, Asians would lose out. They seem able and willing to compete in the open market. Second fun thing. A guy who worked near us was born in Ethiopia of Italian parents. He put African-American on his applications, as was the deal at the time. People wouldn't stop howling. I asked, who amongst you was born in Africa or your grandparents or great grandparents. No one. But this guy who was born in Africa was not allowed to state the facts.

When you start down the path of a liberal thought process, you are often passing through the looking glass.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

It sounds like a Janet Cooke style of essay would give you a better chance of entering UCLA. Just write it as if you were black, without actually necessarily saying so in so many words. Readers suddenly think your writing puts Ernest Hemingway to shame.

Step 1- write your essay Step 2- Run it through the Jive translator here http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/ Step 3- Profit!

How do we patent it!

[dennisw]

Asians have always been punished in the California system, mostly because it was perceived that they were a minority that actually had the nerve to study and do well in school. This means that they didn’t need the sacred government to do everything for them. The nerve!

You have given the pure meritocratic argument.

How about a white family that has been living in California for 20 years and paying a high level of California taxes
Should their son be admitted ahead of a Korean boy who has only lived in California for 5 years or a Black boy who is not as smart as him but will get an affirmative action preference?

How about a black boy whose ancestors have been in the USA for 300 years and in California for 50 years. Should he get preferences over a Vietnamese boy from France who was sent to live with California relatives 6 years ago so he could avail himself of the California University system and be charged in state tuition?

Have you noticed how this wacky admissions policy discriminates against you if you have parents who went to college? Which also would correlate with paying more in California taxes

[Uncle Hal]

If race is not supposed to be an issue for admission to the UC system why do applicants put down their race on their applications. Something does not add up.

[stan_sipple]

we will have to pay a royalty to Michelle Hussein Obama