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Rioting after McCain wins. Was this prophetic?
Fredoneverything.net ^ | 2001 | Fred Reed

Posted on 08/27/2008 1:31:57 PM PDT by RobRoy

Pondering The Black Underclass

Not Colin Powell And The Cosbys

The recent race war in Cincinnati -- which is what it was -- might reasonably lead one to ponder the black underclass, its nature, behavior, crimes, and intentions toward whites. Permit me a few unpleasant observations, inescapable after years on the police beat:

Crime by the underclass is racial, predatory, and very much targeted against whites. The motive is hatred more often than economic gain. The media carefully, systematically, by deliberate policy, hide these things.

The foregoing can be independently verified by anyone. The data are there, on the Internet.

During the Cincinnati riots, I heard through police back-channels of blacks pulling white women from cars and beating them. I didn't write about it. If I had quoted my sources, they would have been fired for talking. Without sources, I'd have been dismissed as engaging in racist fantasy.

But then, on April 23, the columnist John Leo of US News and World Report broke journalistic ranks. * He wrote of one white woman (probably the one I'd heard about) who was attacked and beaten. More chillingly, he reported that "Another driver assaulted by the mob was Roslyn Jones, an albino black woman, hit by a hail of bricks, one of which struck her in the head. The attack stopped when someone shouted, 'She's black!'" (My italics.)

It's racial, people.

Rioting blacks regularly beat whites. We know about Reginald Denny, kicked into brain damage by gangs of blacks in LA. Similar instances have occurred from Los Angeles to Dade County to Cincinnati. All were quickly buried by the media. On the streets of Washington I have myself seen whites swarmed and beaten bloody on two occasions -- two young Australian tourists walking in Georgetown, for example.

The viciousness merits attention. Whites kids riot, yes, usually about politics. They run excitedly about, get arrested and gassed, wave signs, and assuage their hormones. They do not stomp people. White college kids do not grab an official of the IMF, kick him until he hemorrhages to death, and laugh.

The underclass does. When urban blacks surround a car, pull out a terrified woman they believe to be white, and hit her in the head with bricks, they're not playing. They want to hurt, cripple, kill. That's what bricks do.

The underclass is what we have in the cities. One day it will come out. We won't like it. They are not the nice black family down the street with the two polite kids and a Toyota. They are something very different.

In the recent Mardi Gras riots in Seattle, gangs of blacks again attacked whites. So many people saw it, and got it on videotape, that the media couldn't quite hide it. For example, blacks attacked a white woman, after which a young white guy tried to help her. They stomped him to death.** Press was minimal. Can you imagine the furor if whites had attacked a black woman, and murdered a black rescuer?

The media, again, are consciously lying about race. It is lying by crafted omission, by artful editing, but it is lying. If the police stop too many blacks on the highway, coverage is national and unending. If the underclass stomps a white to death, a hush follows.

Examples abound. In Wichita this year*** two black men captured five young whites at gunpoint, forced them to perform various sexual acts on them and each other, of course raped the women, and then killed them all, execution style, except for one woman. Bleeding and naked, she walked through the snow for help.

Two things: First, the motive was hatred. You can rob people without harming them. The attackers intended to humiliate and kill. Second, note the near perfect suppression of the story. If you heard about it at all, it was probably on the Internet.

The hatred of the underclass for whites is not new. Neither is the targeting of white women. In the Sixties the rapist and Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver wrote at length in Soul On Ice (chapter one), of the underclass black's desire to attack white women. Don't believe me. Read it.

The foregoing anecdotes are just that -- anecdotes. The Department of Justice, however, collects data on crime -- the Uniform Crime Reports,**** the National Crime Victimization Survey, ***** and so on. The author Jared Taylor ****** analyzed these figures and found that a black is 55 times as likely to attack a white than vice versa, 103 times as likely to rob, 40 times as likely to rape a white woman than a white man is to rape a black woman, and 237 times as likely to gang up on whites to rob them.

This will be unbelievable to many. But check the numbers for yourself.

Now, I will be accused of racism for saying these things. All right. I hereby make a proposal to the NAACP: Let's hire a first-line accounting firm to make a study of the figures, and publish both its results and its methods. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and will say so. Do I have any takers?

Unless this stops, we face disaster. One day things will explode.

Nothing suggests that it will stop. I see no signs that the black underclass is shrinking, and many signs -- the huge number of children -- that it is growing. These people simply cannot be integrated into a techno-industrial European society. They bear no resemblance to middle-class blacks one sees in offices. They are parasitic, uneducable, criminally predatory -- and they hate whites.

As blacks grow in numbers, they take over city after city. While these governments are not of the underclass, and don't want riots, they will of political necessity support the underclass. And, I suspect, no blacks at all really like whites. The danger is that whites may weary of it. If they ever push back, the potential for irremediable, ghastly, self-sustaining conflict will be high. I'll guess the country couldn't recover.

It had better not happen, but it could. Any spark could light it. One day the underclass, rioting, may go into white neighborhoods to stomp and burn. They won't expect resistance, because they have never met it. I don't think Al and Jesse quite know how many deer guns, how many Weatherbys and .223s sit quietly in closets out here. If a mob comes toward a man's home, where his wife and children are, the results will be astonishing. The police will immediately polarize, black versus white. So will everybody else. Government will be irrelevant. And the whole country just might blow up.

If that happens, God help us.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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I used my own title because the point is about the current times relative to an old article, not the article itself. I read this after the Cincinnati riots and am beginning to wonder if we are entering the perfect cultural/political/economic storm to actually bring it about.
1 posted on 08/27/2008 1:31:57 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

After the riot at the mall in Durham, NC a few weeks ago (by blacks), I read a reader’s response to the article about the incident. He stated what I believe a lot of people are being to feel, that situations like that were why our grandparents faught for segregation.


2 posted on 08/27/2008 1:38:32 PM PDT by MissEdie (On the Sixth Day God created Spurrier)
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To: RobRoy

I’ll be surprised if this thread stays up long.


3 posted on 08/27/2008 1:41:11 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
You read my mind.

Right now, as this Obama bubble continues to swell, I'm glad that I have a very well-armed ICE agent for a neighbor, just in case...

4 posted on 08/27/2008 1:43:40 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (I'll take a "third Bush term" over a second Carter term ANY DAY!)
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To: Last Dakotan

>>I’ll be surprised if this thread stays up long.<<

Why would you say that.

Seriously?


5 posted on 08/27/2008 1:44:04 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: RobRoy
As blacks grow in numbers, they take over city after city.

This was a 2001 article - in the intervening years we have seen waves of less predatory illegal aliens take over formerly black neighborhoods in most major cities and "leaven out" those areas, making them, if not paradises, at least less dangerous than they were.

Almost as if by design...

6 posted on 08/27/2008 1:46:19 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: RobRoy

The sad part is that it didn’t have to be this way. The commies have been using and fomenting racial tensions in this country for decades as a means to undermine our society. Blacks have been encouraged by the Left to hate whites. It is classic divide and conquer.


7 posted on 08/27/2008 1:46:26 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: RobRoy
Interesting ----- not inconceivable, either.

In many of our larger cities today, the Hispanics and blacks have nearly come to this point already. The author had nothing to say about that, but it's a very real aspect of the problem.

8 posted on 08/27/2008 1:46:40 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: Last Dakotan
Why do you say so? Do you have an issue with the author's premise? The Abduction and murder of the people he mentions was horrific and mostly ignored by the media.

The murder of the two kids in Tennessee was inhuman. Ignored also.

Do you really believe that there is no flash point that will be reached eventually?

Just trying to see where you are on this.

9 posted on 08/27/2008 1:49:55 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: RobRoy

“The media carefully, systematically, by deliberate policy, aids and abets these racially motivated crimes, by turning a blind eye to them.”(that’s better)

They are cowards who well reap the fruit of their tacit participation in such heinous acts.

They are as guilty as the perpetrators — maybe more so.

A pox on their house!

STE=Q


10 posted on 08/27/2008 1:49:56 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: willgolfforfood

>>In many of our larger cities today, the Hispanics and blacks have nearly come to this point already. The author had nothing to say about that, but it’s a very real aspect of the problem.<<
Actually, the author has a lot to say about that, but in other articles.

I use this one because I think it is racisim that got Obama as far as he is and the supporters are the same group that still think Bush stole Florida from Algore. Coupled with the responses to their teams winning, The Watts, Seattle (I was there) and Cincinnati responses, this is a VERY real possibility for which we should at least be prepared, emotionally and intellectually at the least.


11 posted on 08/27/2008 1:51:02 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: STE=Q

CORRECTION: “will” reap


12 posted on 08/27/2008 1:51:45 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
This was a 2001 article - in the intervening years we have seen waves of less predatory illegal aliens take over formerly black neighborhoods in most major cities and "leaven out" those areas, making them, if not paradises, at least less dangerous than they were.

It may be politically incorrect to say that, but I will agree with you. Lets also not forget that when the illegals and or hispanics move in, they actually OPEN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES, as opposed to the abandoned storefronts and occassional Asian-owned nail salon/take out joint that dominated previously.

I am all in favor of deporting the illegals yesterday, but will tell you that, at least in New York and New Jersey, they represent an improvement over the ghettos of the native born.

13 posted on 08/27/2008 1:58:55 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: RobRoy

I think you are right.

But, in 2008 America, there are some truths that simply cannot be uttered. In the minds of most people, anyone who says the things you have said in this article is a racist, plain and simple, and no matter how many facts or statistics you cite, you will remain a racist. Sorry.

In the end, there are only two groups of humans: those who live in society (”civilization”) and feral humans (”barbarians”). Experience tells us that there are civilized people of every race. Sadly, experience also tells us that there are also trash, scum, and thugs in every race. and, unfortunately for civilized black Americans, black culture in America today idolizes the trash, scum, and thugs.

This is why I support racial honesty. If America does not face the problems created by the barbarians now, using words, it will be forced to deal with them later using bullets. Right now, civilized people can simply move away to the suburbs to escape from the barbarians — but someday, sooner or later, the trash, scum, and thugs will become too numerous to confine to the inner cities. When the soccer moms and golf dads of the suburbs become the primary prey of the ferals, civilized America will demand government intervention. And when that intervention doesn’t come (and it won’t), they will take matters into their own hands, Koreans-in-LA style.

At that point — as they say – “it’s on”. When the armed forces and cops begin to divide along racial lines, better find people who look like you and work out a survival plan, because it’ll be race war.

And we cannot allow a race war to happen here. If it came down to whites versus blacks, God forbid, we all know who would win in the end. Numbers don’t lie, and ethnic cleansing is an ugly, savage thing...

Bottom line: We should do what we can to keep this nightmare from ever being realized. An honest, upfront discussion of reality would be a start. Too bad we won’t get one.


14 posted on 08/27/2008 2:01:22 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: RobRoy

“This will be unbelievable to many. But check the numbers for yourself.”

No shock here. The black underclass is responsible for virtually all the violent crime in this country and in others as well. They have disrupted the educational system to the point of disaster making school integration a catostrophic mistake. Yet as you say, the media covers it up daily. When a crime is committed by a black man, you never get a description of the criminal so you know by instinct it was another black crime. And like a tidal wave the intriduction of these creatures into an otherwise civilized scene brings chaos and trouble. Downtown Atlanta is a ghost town at night because of the safety factor. The Buckhead area has been the night life spot north of the central city but it too now is being engulfed by black crime, murder, smash and grab “blue jean” bandits and no doubt will eventually destroy that area too.

Police know the problem, individuals know the problem and the media covers it up. I guarantee you there are weapons in my house and I know how to use them if it ever becomes necessary. BTW.....look at the math: 13% of the American population is black. 6% of them are male. 2-3% are the underclass. Knowing that, go back and look at the crime stats. Amazing. Disgusting. I agree that slavery was terrible. The most disastorous mistake ever made in this country was bring Africans to our shores. It is something that might yet destroy us.


15 posted on 08/27/2008 2:02:10 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: fr_freak

“The commies have been using and fomenting racial tensions in this country for decades as a means to undermine our society. Blacks have been encouraged by the Left to hate whites. It is classic divide and conquer.”

EXACTOMUNDO!

Keep the “underclass” (I don’t like that word)busy fighting each other, so they don’t recognize the true enemy!

It’s also important to give the middle class a false sense of security — and keep them busy making that almighty dollar.

STE=Q


16 posted on 08/27/2008 2:02:58 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: RobRoy

I expect it when TheOne loses. Riots and killings nationwide.


17 posted on 08/27/2008 2:04:24 PM PDT by BubbaBasher (No matter who wins, we lose.)
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To: RobRoy
I live near a major city in the South. We have probably 300,000-500,00 of this black underclass in the city limits, and (counting illegals) about the same number of Hispanics in a similar underclass environment, they call "the barrio".

If the "worst case" scenario as envisioned by this article goes up here, AT LEAST 100,000 PEOPLE could be killed, and as many more left homeless from the burning and pillaging. It would look like a biblical plague, for all intents and purposes.

18 posted on 08/27/2008 2:05:33 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: Jimmy Valentine
the white citizenry has been emasculated....there will be no response, and if there is a response, it will be quickly put down by govt agents as "militia" or "Right wing" etc.....

you see, you can sit and say that whites should be killed if you are a black person and its just shrugged off...

but speak any violence against a blackie, and you're white, look out....you'll get the royal screw job...

bottom line is this....we have no natural defenders among whites in govt...

its like American Jews....they don't protect their own in Israel and they would actually support someone who aligns with people who would destroy Jews everywhere let alone Israel....

if the white Rats and Pubs can't support their own, who the hell is going to?....nobody..

interesting show on tv about catching people on video doing violence....the only whites who fought back against black violence were white immigrants from Russia or the Ukraine....no American whites will fight back...

its called intimidation...

you see in the NBA all the time....the white players from Europe play with confidence and passion and are actually the stars on some teams....

19 posted on 08/27/2008 2:09:31 PM PDT by cherry
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To: RobRoy

I was in LA when the blacks did their King riot. I don’t care what anyone says about the motivations of hatred, the blacks have more hate for whites than anyone does for them. Saw it for hours with my own two eyes. Glad I was someplace where the business had loaded firearms, or I would not be here today. No shouting matches that day, just hate, destruction, assault and rape. What is the phrase about character, something like “character is what you do when you think you can get away with it?”


20 posted on 08/27/2008 2:15:44 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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