Posted on 08/25/2008 7:42:37 PM PDT by neverdem
PHILADELPHIA - A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama's claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot.
To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country. According to Obama's birth certificate, which his campaign posted on its Internet site in June to quell rumors that he is foreign born, the Illinois senator was born in Hawaii on Aug. 6, 1961. On Thursday, Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa.
"We really don't believe he was born in Hawaii," Berg said. "We think he was born in Kenya."
The presidential candidate's father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, according to Obama's campaign Web site.
Berg's suit claims the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country.
Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in Kansas, and his parents met at the University of Hawaii when Dunham was a student there, according to the Obama campaign. Eventually, Obama's father returned to Kenya, and his son grew up in Hawaii with his mother and for a few years in Indonesia after Dunham married an Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro. Also, Obama lived with his maternal grandparents in Hawaii.
"If he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, (Obama) would lose his citizenship," Berg said.
The Obama campaign has a special section on its Web site, "Fight the Smears," that debunks the birth certificate story and other reports that have circulated about him during the campaign.
"It's part of a smear campaign," said an Obama campaign volunteer who identified herself as Rachel. "There are just so many lies out there."
The lawsuit claims three "independent" document forensic experts performed extensive tests on the digitally-scanned image of Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on the campaign's site and found the document to be "a forgery."
Jerome Corsi, author of the book, "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," has also deemed the birth certificate phony, according to The Annenberg Political Fact Check, www.FactCheck.org.
The Annenberg Political Fact Check, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, aims to expose deception and confusion in U.S. politics.
Recently, FactCheck.org staffers "touched, examined and photographed" the original birth certificate kept at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and concluded the document is genuine.
"The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.," FactCheck.org staffers concluded.
Sean Smith, Obama's Pennsylvania communications director, was contacted Friday about the suit but declined comment.
The civil suit filed by Berg will be reviewed by the U.S. Federal Election Commission, according to Patty Hartman, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.
Keith Phucas can be reached at kphucas@timesherald.com or 610-272-2500, ext. 211.
I’m not a troll. Read my other posts instead of spouting off. But you are definitely a jerk.
LOL, We’re all newbies at one time or another. I built that up as a guide for myself when I was a nooooob, myself.
It’s helped hundreds since...
Thank you so much for that info. I didn’t realize there was so much to do to add a pic, I was trying to drag and drop it, lol. I guess you can tell I am a newbie at this. :)
Thank you so much for that info. I didn’t realize there was so much to do to add a pic, I was trying to drag and drop it, lol. I guess you can tell I am a newbie at this. :)
Uuhhh, well then you are a dumbass too and really look like it with an idiotic post like that.
*If you are born on a military base, YOU ARE AN AMERICAN. *If you are born to American Pparents overseas over the age of 23, YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.
Obama was born to muslims in Kenya, neither of which was over 18 and a citizen.
Where don’t you see the difference.
I have never seen so many stupid FReepers in my life....echoing the lib talking points.
Is this a sleeper-troll account?
You need to read more and spend less time writing nosensical Anti-American nonsense.
Why do you hate my country and want an Indonesian to run it?
SELLOUT
Why do you two spout off on liob talking points like the NYT when you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
How long have you been here and you never heard of thread jumping either?
I want to know how you can support a non-citizen running for President?
Justify that instead of liberal ad hominem attacks.
As for mine, they are not attacks if they are true. You two need to read this before you subject us to nonsense.
This isn’t DU except for when you post. What you excuse goes against all that makes this country great and obviously you have no idea of how many people have been threatened and intimidated by looking for the truth.
BUT WHAT’S IT MATTER IF MCCAIN WAS BORN IN GUAM TO A HERO MILITARY FAMILY SERVING OFF-SHORE????ing born in kenya and
That’s the same as being born in Kenya and a practicing Muslim.
If any of the REAL FReepers agree with this nonsense, please let me know why you stick up for a TRAITOR trying to lie his way into the White House?
He only slaughters babies AFTER they are born...no biggie. s/
FactCheck isn’t reliable and they aren’t non-partisan. They are run by the Annenburg foundation. Almost everyone who works there are Obama supporters or fundraisers. That whole site has become an advertisement for Obama.
They say Berg is respected in the legal field. He certainly didn't sound like he deserves any respect.
Philip Berg is all about Philip Berg(IMHO)
http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.asp?brd=1672
It’s on the frontpage of Philly’s Times Herald. I have only seen it referenced from blogs before.
Thanks for posting that. Some of those are new to me.
Ok, I want to apologize as I feel much better after venting.
I had to hear that crazy, talk: “Who Cares if he kills babies and our troops while raising taxes and making the US into a Commie State”
All while having to bite my tongue so as not to offend.
I am just used to more educated FReepers and those that know about things that they comment on. I know that many don’t like McCain though and root for the Obama’s....more power to ya.
Really, for the best of the country and to save face next time you need to read this:
http://www.us-immigration.com/
The fabled 'Blue Screen of Death'.
moon bat pursuit.
He wasn't born in on a US military base, nor in the Canal Zone:
Place of birth?
Colón PANAMA
Colón, PANAMA, not Colón Canal Zone. PANAMA
Colón isn't part of the Canal Zone.
It is a separate district and provence, a district and provence of the country of Panama.
Much like West Berlin never belonged to East Germany.
OF COURSE McCAIN IS AN AMERICAN. No question of that, he is an American. PERIOD!
Is he a 'natural born citizen'? I don't know, and neither do you! The constitutional term 'natural born citizen' has never been clearly defined. Laws have been passed since 1790 in a attempt to clarify the rules of citizenship. Laws that overlap, contradict and are or aren't retroactive. The Supreme court has not ruled on whether natural born follows jus soli - birth on US territory, or jus sanguinus - birth to US blood. Until that point is defined neither of us has so much as a narrow reed to cling to.
Is this a sleeper-troll account?
Yes. Shhhhhhh! I'm under deep cover, it took me 72,000 posts to get here!
Obama was born to muslims in Kenya, neither of which was over 18 and a citizen.
I don't know where he was born. I'd love to!
He wasn't born to muslims. Daddy was muslim, but mommy was an atheist. (Both part of the Satan side, IMHO).
Why do you hate my country and want an Indonesian to run it?
I don't. Although I am revolted by Obama, I am merely unenthused about McCain.
SELLOUT
Nope. I just want the next president to be constitutionally qualified to hold the office.
Wafflehouse, that was nice :)
Abrasive no doubt, I hate when people spout NYT talking points and don’t know what the heck they are saying.
They make themselves and FReepers look stupid when we are always monitored by DUmmies and Big Brother...aka, Wash comPOST.
“””If the supreme court ever get around to ruling on exactly what ‘natural born citizen’ means they could end up ruling ‘em BOTH ineligible!”””
I am sorry but this person has never read an article on the subject in their life or even retained basic Social Studies if they believe this and is commenting as such.
Do you believe that this is a non-story and the same as McCain being born to a HERO of this Country that was serving while Obambi wore the burka and smoked Indonesian Ganja?
I can’t believe how many people have a “devil may care” attitude over “THE ONE”.
LOL! No harm, no foul. This is a VERY maddening (in both senses of the word) subject.
I've done my unfair share of venting, too...
The thing is there is a big difference between being born to parents who are BOTH U.S. Citizens and are out of the country due to being stationed somewhere (as in McCain’s case), and people who are born to a parent who is NOT a citizen (at least back then...).
I really don’t know what to think about the whole Birth Cert. issue, really. I can’t imagine how he could’ve gotten this far if his papers weren’t in order. Isn’t there ANY oversight on these issues from the Gov’t? If not, there should be, IMHO.
We should not be taking the word of blogs, and clearly biased organizations who claim they have “touched” the Certificate. Why is there not a more reputable organization coming out and saying there is nothing to this? At the least I would think Obama would make an attempt to let SOMEONE in the MSM have a peek at the document. It all sounds fishy to me, personally.
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