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FactCheck.Org's Obama Birth Certificate is dated March 2008
Atlas Shrugs ^ | August 23, 2008 | Atlas Shrugs

Posted on 08/24/2008 6:46:17 PM PDT by Kevmo

Factcheck Obama Birth Certificate Alignment problem August 23, 2008 http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/factcheckorg-has-new-birth-certificate-story/

Snoopy said, on August 22nd, 2008 at 4:32 pm Anyone notice the certificate number isn’t level with the security pattern. Looks like it was added later.

The old COLB certificate number was level to the pattern.

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

(when you follow above link, click the mouse to expand the image. On some images, you can right click and click view image and then expand the image. This is the case at the Obama webpage.)

The word certificate may be pre-printed. The certificate number is variable information like Honolulu below. Honolulu is level with the background. But the certificate number doesn’t appear to be. Certificate number is

151-1961-010641

In the 151, the 151 are close to the lower horizontal bar in the background. But by the end of the certificate number, the end 41 is far above the horizontal bar. The initial 1’s top seems to be slightly below the horizontal bar above the number. The final 1 seems to go into and overlap the horizontal bar above the number. Of course, we are looking at it at an angle. Someone may wish to reorient it for us.

The 0 6 in the last segment of the number also seem to be inside the horizontal bar above the number. The 5 in the 151 has its top appear to have a small gap between it and the horizontal bar above it. These gaps would seemingly be independent of original camera angle and the orientation that Factcheck has chosen to give us, but perhaps they do? Mabye COLB defenders may want to do experiments and show us its an angle issue? Right now it seems not.

If you look down the form, Honolulu stays level with the horizontal bars.

The Certificate Number was originally blacked out on the Obama webpage and Daily Kos. So if FactCheck or someone added this certificate number, they might have put it out of line.

The Patricia Decosta COLB

http://www.againstobama.com/2008/07/barack-obamas-forged-birth-certificate-the-smoking-gun-has-been-found/

or here

http://www.againstobama.com/wp-content/uploads/doc_decosta_pat_birth.jpg

The Decosta COLB does not appear to have a misalignment problem.

http://www.valeehill.net/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I4525&tree=0001

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate_thumb.jpg

Perhaps if the COLB, certificate of live birth, was manufactured outside normal means, then someone made a mistake on the alignment. So the reason for the blackout may have been this alignment was wrong in the first place. The purported reasons were to protect security or confidentiality or privacy. But perhaps it was to cover up the misalignment all along.

According to Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs, the Factcheck photo images contain date indicators indicating a March 12, 2008 date for when they were taken. So at that point, Factcheck and the Obama campaign under David Axelrod may have decided to conceal the Certificate Number because it was out of alignment.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/annenberg-fact.html

DateTimeOriginal - 2008:03:12 22:40:18 DateTimeDigitized - 2008:03:12 22:40:18

This is draft and preliminary and subject to revision. Comments and corrections welcome. This is hypotheses or speculation. All other disclaimers apply.


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; factcheck; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile
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There is an alignment problem and the date on the document presented by FactCheck.Org is from March 2008 per Atlas Shrugs.

I did a search for this article and didn't find anything, so I'm hoping it's not a duplicate. Free Republic appeared to be down for several minutes this evening when I logged on.

1 posted on 08/25/2008 12:52:12 AM PDT by Kevmo
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To: Polarik; pissant; LucyT; Calpernia; et al

Fyi, more fuel for the fire.


2 posted on 08/25/2008 12:53:11 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Atlas Shrugs link:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/annenberg-fact.html

Old Atlantic lighthouse link:

http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/factcheck-obama-birth-certificate-alignment-problem/


3 posted on 08/25/2008 12:56:25 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo; pissant

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

Look at this link and tell me why the date stamp on the back, below the seal, IS NOT blend through, like on the original Obama Smears jpg??!!


4 posted on 08/25/2008 1:17:51 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Kevmo

Dems picked the only candidate that can lose. Even Biden has a better chance of winning. It would only benefit Dems if he was disqualified.

However there are rumours that he travelled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. If that is the case, you could hammer him on his allegiance.


5 posted on 08/25/2008 1:24:51 AM PDT by igoramus08
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To: Kevmo

That march 2008 creation date is very flimsy. It all depends on if the date on the camera was correct or not. My camera is personally set to 2003.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 1:34:34 AM PDT by ryan125
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To: Kevmo

read later


7 posted on 08/25/2008 2:03:15 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: JMack
I really don’t know where to stand on this, But I’m leaning towards us forging a better Birth Certificate for Barak, and putting this to rest.

Thats hilarious.
9 posted on 08/25/2008 2:43:56 AM PDT by igoramus08
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To: AmericaUnited

IS NOT blend through = IS NOT BLED THROUGH


10 posted on 08/25/2008 2:49:40 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT; milford421

Ping.


11 posted on 08/25/2008 3:01:45 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: JMack
I really don’t know where to stand on this, But I’m leaning towards us forging a better Birth Certificate for Barak, and putting this to rest.

LOL! Thanks for the humor to start my day. LOL!

12 posted on 08/25/2008 3:20:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ryan125

I looked at the fact check website and at the jpg files for Senator Obama’s birth certificate. While file: birth_certificate_5.jpg and birth_certificate_2.jpg clearly shows the name of his father, the file birth_certificate_1.jpg doesn’t have a name for the father. It shows the seal and if you increase the magnification you can see that at the fold where the name of the father should be, there isn’t any type face. This leads me to believe that one of these files is clearly a forged document. If it is proven to be forged, then this organization that posted it to mislead American citizens should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


13 posted on 08/25/2008 5:22:06 AM PDT by HiFive (Birth Certificate)
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To: AmericaUnited
Look at this link and tell me why the date stamp on the back, below the seal, IS NOT blend through, like on the original Obama Smears jpg??!!

But it is.

It's not quite as visible as it is in the scan (and even the scan needs to be enhanced to bring it out further) because you have quite different lighting and other conditions between this photograph and the original scan.

But some of it is still visible even without enhancement in the photograph. See that bluish smudge just above the "ma" of "prima"? That's the top of the "D" in the "Ph.D" of the signature stamp. You can also see it in image 6.

Here's an animated GIF which uses an enhanced section of the original scan (the only enhancement was a change in color levels) which is overlaid with the date and signature stamps cropped from the 2008 Michele COLB, showing how the elements of the bleed match up with the signature stamp.

stamp.gif

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14 posted on 08/25/2008 5:22:14 AM PDT by Koyaan
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To: HiFive

Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.

Factcheck.com is also a project of the Annenberg Foundation. Factcheck is shilling for Obama.

Bill Ayres, the Weathermen terrorist of yore, is involved with the Annenberg Foundation too.


15 posted on 08/25/2008 8:04:55 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll

Excuse me!

Factcheck.com SHUD READ Factcheck.org.

So sorry.


16 posted on 08/25/2008 8:06:21 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Kevmo

There is no way that that thing they are showing on Factcheck via photos is the same as the one they put up on their website.


17 posted on 08/25/2008 8:47:13 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Kevmo
I reported this last Friday.

All it takes is one feature that both the scan and the photo have in common but are represented differently

And that is, "The top fold on the FactCheck photo runs diagonal (left side of fold is 20 pixels further down than the right side of fold) while top fold on the FactCheck image runs perfectly horizontal with the top border."

Bye-bye, FactCheck

18 posted on 08/25/2008 9:19:27 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: JMack

If we DQ him, I am not sure we might not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
***There’s no way we’ll be able to disqualify him this week, it’s simply going to take longer than that. This thing has been going on for months and the MSM has managed to completely ignore it. And as far as Rush Limbaugh is concerned, he’s been half a step behind for this entire election cycle. He’s an entertainer in the business of selling advertising on his program and he won’t be doing anything to jeopardize that.


19 posted on 08/25/2008 9:21:20 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Koyaan

Welcome to Free Republic.


20 posted on 08/25/2008 9:23:29 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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