Grand jury hands down three new (FLDS) sect indictments

gosanangelo ^ | August 21, 2008 | PAUL A. ANTHONY

[Alice in Wonderland]

A Schleicher County grand jury today handed down three new felony indictments in the state's polygamist sect investigation, a court clerk said.

Schleicher County District Clerk Peggy Williams said the indictments involve three individuals. It's unclear whether those individuals are new defendants or suspects already charged in the probe.

The identities of those individuals were not immediately available. Neither were the actual charges listed in the indictments.

The grand jury last month indicted six members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Court hearings for those individuals is scheduled for Sept. 8, authorities said.

The grand jury plans to reconvene on Sept. 23, Williams said.

Sect spokesman Willie Jessop was one of six witnesses subpoenaed today. When asked about his testimony, Jessop told reporters: "We certainly believe there is a God. We believe he will judge all. Those who judge will be judged themselves."

In related action today, a case involving Lloyd Barlow, a physician at the sect's YFZ compound near Eldorado, was transferred to the Schleicher County court system. He is facing three charges of failing to report child abuse, a misdemeanor. He was among the six members of FLDS indicted last month.

[UCANSEE2]

Yeah, all but the woman who hadn’t made it to the doorway yet.

[metmom]

You need reading comprehension lessons?

Prosecuted is not persecuted.

I can't prosecute anyone; I'm not a DA.

I'm not persecuting anyone either.

Their beliefs are their beliefs, misguided and immoral as they are, but I am taking no action to subjugate them.

However, anyone who breaks the law deserves to be prosecuted. Turning into persecution and making martyrs out of them doesn't wear well for child rapists. Normal, sane moral people don't buy it and with good reason.

By you. The extermination order against the Mormons?

Show me where I ordered any extermination of Mormons.

I'll be waiting but NOT holding my breath.

You're not doing very well today.

[UCANSEE2]

“Almost every minority gets persecuted for their beliefs in one way or another. “

Yes. Even in posts here on FR.

But, there is a difference between persecution and prosecution.

[LeGrande]

“who thinks that the Constitution only protected the establishment of Religion not the practice of religion.”

The ‘only’ problem with your comment, is that other posters here read the rest of the comments that followed, where we went into detail on the fourth amendment, and I explained why I only mentioned the first part.

Fourth Amendment? We were talking about the First Amendment, you really are confused aren't you. Please, for my sake, read the Constitution so that we can talk about it reasonably. You are just pulling phrases that you have heard out of the air.

[LeGrande]

Free exercise of religion is not license to break the law and rape 13 year old girls.

Has it even been alleged that any of the 365 women and children kidnapped by the state were raped at age 13?

Texas Law said that it was ok to marry 15 year olds.

[metmom]

Ah, the atheists are better people than religious folks, argument.

Tell that to the people who lived under Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-il.

[LeGrande]

Now, was it legal in Texas, the way it was allegedly done at the YFZ Ranch?

My guess is that much of what goes on at the YFZ ranch is illegal.

I have a cousin who is a Detective, who claims that everyone breaks the law, that there are no innocent people out there. I think he is right, but I think it says more about our laws than whether people break the law or not.

[LeGrande]

Tell that to the people who lived under Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-il.

Communisim is not Atheism and I don't happen to believe the Kim Jong-il is God either : )

[allmendream]

Second or third or fourth “marriages” don't count as a marriage in the U.S.A..

Taken into custody of CPS is not “kidnapped”. You may as well say someone who was arrested was “abducted”.

As to where it was alleged that the FLDS is engaged in raping of young girl; here is their “spiritual leader” Warren Jeffs kissing his 12 year old “spiritual bride”.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4948876&page=1

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/05/28/Photos_show_Jeffs_kissing_underage_girls/UPI-57371212023701/

[UCANSEE2]

“The women and children were taken away because of what they were taught.”

With the exception of two females who were improperly classified as minors, the women were not ‘taken away’.

And yes, the CPS argued that it was a ‘system of belief’ which contributed to the ‘dangerous environment’ that the children were in.

Now, the indictments are another matter, and are for actual ‘acts’.

You keep mixing the two, and that is a big mistake.

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I must say, you being an atheist, that your defense of the FLDS based on religious rights, is admirable.

[Alice in Wonderland]

The real Barbara Jessop from an article posted by greyfoxx39:

[JRochelle]

I hope the one on the right, sitting beside him is the one who henpecks him and demands his attentions every night.

*snicker*

[LeGrande]

Their beliefs are their beliefs, misguided and immoral as they are, but I am taking no action to subjugate them.

Your posts claiming that the FLDS are immoral and misguided are persecution.

Show me where I ordered any extermination of Mormons.

You didn't. Governor Boggs did. That is the prosecution I was talking about. You asked, "Show me where in any law where one can be prosecuted for one’s beliefs." The Extermination order was a law prosecuting Mormons precisely because of their beliefs.

You need reading comprehension lessons?

No, but you could use some writing and comprehension lessons.

[UCANSEE2]

“Fourth Amendment? We were talking about the First Amendment,”

You are absolutely correct. My mistake. I am in a hurry, and have to leave for work.

You are , of course, welcome to make as big a deal out of it as you want to. But it will only make you look petty.

Regardless to what you might think, I do look forward to our debates on this case.

So.... I look forward to reading everyone’s posts later this evening.

GOOD LUCK, to ALL!

[LeGrande]

Second or third or fourth “marriages” don't count as a marriage in the U.S.A..

I didn't say they did.

Taken into custody of CPS is not “kidnapped”. You may as well say someone who was arrested was “abducted”.

Using the law to illegally arrest someone is kidnapping. Look up the Federal Statute, "Under the Color of Law".

As to where it was alleged that the FLDS is engaged in raping of young girl; here is their “spiritual leader” Warren Jeffs kissing his 12 year old “spiritual bride”.

Kissing a 12 year old girl is gross, but is it rape? I don't know. Maybe you cabal members who are experts on the subject can fill us in?

[metmom]

Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-il are atheists.

Show me a communist regime that was not run by atheists and didn’t lead to the death by extermination of millions of people.

I doubt that most North Koreans really believe that Kim Jong-il is a god either.

[allmendream]

How about Jeff’s 14 year old “spiritual bride” who has children. I suppose she wasn’t “raped” either. Must have been a virgin birth then because any sex with a girl under 14 in Texas is rape.

[JRochelle]

If you have children JRochelle, I think that I could make a very good case that you are abusing your children if you are teaching them your beliefs : )

I have a young son. I am teaching him my beliefs, that there is right and there is wrong. I am teaching him that is important to be a good person, a good man, a man who respects the fairer sex.

I do not want him to have the liberal view that if it feels good or it doesn't hurt anyone, then it must be morally right.

I want him to be a real man, something I hope you are still striving for Legrande! Don't give up!!! :0)

[LeGrande]

With the exception of two females who were improperly classified as minors, the women were not ‘taken away’.

The women produced documentation proving that they were not minors. The appeals court so stated. That is not just 'improperly classified'.

And yes, the CPS argued that it was a ‘system of belief’ which contributed to the ‘dangerous environment’ that the children were in.

That is scary, scary, scary to me. Luckily the appeals court rejected that argument.

Now, the indictments are another matter, and are for actual ‘acts’.

You keep mixing the two, and that is a big mistake.

When have I ever mixed the two, or said that the perps shouldn't be arrested and tried? Maybe you should try and think a little before posting?

[JRochelle]

Everyone knows that seat belts come from the devil...

ROTFL! Not implausible in that cult!