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McCain's Saddleback Grand Slam
Human Events ^ | August 18 2008 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 08/18/2008 6:06:46 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

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For the many of us who watched the Rick Warren Forum, Jed Babbin has done a great job of highlighting some of the less touched upon aspects.

This is an easy read and a good one for FReepers to email to their friends.

1 posted on 08/18/2008 6:06:46 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The idiots at DU are having fits about a NYTimes piece saying that McCain wasn’t in a “cone of silence.” They whine that Rick Warren lied and that McCain might have had the questions ahead of time. Can you say PARANOIA????


2 posted on 08/18/2008 6:14:52 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter; All

Here’s all any Conservative needs to know about Barrack Hussein Obama:

Special Interest Group Ratings:

Planned Parenthood - 100% Support
National Right To Life - 0% Support
NARAL - 100% Support
Americans for Tax Reform - 0% Support
ACLU - 83% Support
NEA - 100% Support
NOW Hags - 100% Support
Citizens Against Government Waste - 13% Support
Gun Owners of America - 0% Support
NRA - “F” Rating
Federation for American Immigration Reform - 0% Support
US Border Patrol - 8% Support
Unions - 82% - 100% Support
Population Connection - 100% Support (These are the ‘Zero Growth’ freaks)

http://vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS030017

[Barrack Hussein Obama’s record in the Illinois senate:]

- Opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.
- Opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother’s wishes. Obama inexplicably opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times.
- Obama took almost $90,000 in bundled contributions from the Council for a Livable World. The council is a well-known anti-defense organization.
- Obama puts rigid ideology before what’s best for the people of Illinois, and presumably he would do that as President as well. He has on several occasions made public his opposition to the NAFTA trade agreement and his belief that it must be negotiated. All the while thanks to NAFTA, Illinois exports $1.3 billion in agricultural goods to Canada.
- Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
- Obama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
- Finally, just in case you thought it couldn’t get any worse, Obama was the only member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators.

Can’t kill the innocent fast enough, can’t free the guilty soon enough!


3 posted on 08/18/2008 6:16:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: shankbear

What kind of an idiot would need THOSE kind of questions ahead of time to look good?


4 posted on 08/18/2008 6:19:10 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Enjoy it while it lasts. Fox is preparing a one-hour hit job on McCain to air tomorrow night in O’Reilly’s time slot. And I was just warming up to McCain...

(they are supposedly going to air the same for Obama tonight. However, it remains to be seen how they will treat his early history, association with terrorist, the wrong Reverend Wright, etc.)


5 posted on 08/18/2008 6:21:22 AM PDT by CedarDave (What do Obama and Osama have in common? Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: SMARTY
What kind of an idiot would need THOSE kind of questions ahead of time to look good?

It's not the questions he had ahead of time, but the ANSWERS!!

6 posted on 08/18/2008 6:22:35 AM PDT by CedarDave (What do Obama and Osama have in common? Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

It was a big McCain win. The “above my pay grade,” remark should become the centerpiece of the next GOP opposition ad.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 6:22:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
My wife and I watched the repeat of the event last night on CNN.

When I mentioned that Obama was stammering around and can't think on his feet, she corrected me; "He's trying too hard to say what he means in a way that won't offend anyone. He's being deceptive."

Case closed.

8 posted on 08/18/2008 6:23:29 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“You can judge how well McCain did by the minimalist coverage in the media.”

That says it all.


9 posted on 08/18/2008 6:24:40 AM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Answering Warren’s question of when a baby is entitled to human rights, Obama said, “Well, I think that whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade.” Obama said he was pro-choice. When pressed to say whether he’d ever voted to limit abortions, Obama slipped and slid around the question, claiming he was in favor of limits on late-term abortions, but cited no example of ever voting for legislation to create such limits. McCain said plainly that he believed that life beings at conception and that, “I will be a pro-life president and this presidency will have pro life policies. That's my commitment, that's my commitment to you.”

Obama lied while trying to straddle the fence to play to the middle, and McCain lied while staking a clear position to placate his base. Not sure there's much of a difference there.

10 posted on 08/18/2008 6:25:28 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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If you mean by ‘answers’ “Personal Conviction” (that old fashioned virtue) then, yes ... he had the answers ahead of time. What mature adult, who's spent a lifetime in public service would NOT have a few things worked out by now? All his answers are a reflection of his mental furniture, the stuff he thinks about daily and lives with.
11 posted on 08/18/2008 6:25:28 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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The next time for Pete’s sake give the baby the questions ahead of time so we don’t have to go through all of thoses ums and ahs while he tries to form a subject with a predicate.


12 posted on 08/18/2008 6:28:44 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: CedarDave; SMARTY

I just forwarded this article on and included both of your comments, as they pretty much answered the Dems’ fake complaint.

You both nailed it!


13 posted on 08/18/2008 6:35:17 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Canedawg

I was at a Republican event Saturday where Col Bud Day spoke about his friendship with his (as he put it)”former cellmate when we were in jail” - I walked in already knowing I was voting for McC but not 100% happy with that choice....I walked out energized, ready to work my a$$ off to help do whatever is needed to get him elected....I went from “voting against Obama” to 100% “voting FOR McCain”....


14 posted on 08/18/2008 6:36:24 AM PDT by BamaDi (John McCain - my choice for President and the USA's only option!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
You can judge how well McCain did by the minimalist coverage in the media

AND, how upset they were at how prepared and knwoledgable McCain sounded compared to the floundring inept Obama. What next? Andrea Mitchell will probably accuse McCain of having a 48 hour session before the questioning to review the questions and prepare his answers.

15 posted on 08/18/2008 6:36:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Walmartian

It answers the question of which one will best be able to handle those 3 a.m. phone calls, doesn’t it?


16 posted on 08/18/2008 6:38:20 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Teacher317

Actually, there’s a huge difference. John McCain is actually fairly consistent in his pro-life message. I say ‘fairly’ because he has an unfortunate affinity for embryonic stem-cell research.

Obama, on the other hand, has staked out a radical position on the far left (farther left than any of his colleagues in the Senate) yet can’t defend it. “It’s above my paygrade” doesn’t compute when you are going for the highest ‘paygrade’ in the land. He is a man standing on a position, not a conviction.


17 posted on 08/18/2008 6:39:59 AM PDT by pgyanke (Public "servants" have decided it's their job to use the public's money to fight the public)
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To: shankbear

when you hear the ideologues grasping for straws to stay afloat,

then you know their candidate got his nuances kicked!


18 posted on 08/18/2008 6:44:47 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It was a big McCain win. The “above my pay grade,” remark should become the centerpiece of the next GOP opposition ad.

You could even hear some gasps or mumbles from Obama supporters in the congregation when he said that. You know they knew he had seriously f***** up right then and there.

19 posted on 08/18/2008 6:44:59 AM PDT by library user
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

That’s the way all presidential debates should be.
McCain kicked tail!


20 posted on 08/18/2008 6:45:58 AM PDT by devistate one four (H I V Homophobia Is Vindicated)
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