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Livethread - Obama, McCain, and Rick Warren

Posted on 08/16/2008 4:57:08 PM PDT by UFC Pride K1

Share your thoughts about the Saddleback Civil Forum, which starts at 8:00pm EST..

Will Warren throw softballs on the issue of abortion?

Will he give both candidates free passes?

Will this be an attempt to minimize the lives of the unborn while giving higher priority of less urgent social issues?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: ca2008; christianvote; electionpresident; mccain; obama; prolife; rickwarren; saddleback; warren
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To: Porterville

Stem cells? How about cord blood banks? There ARE such things.


101 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: RooRoobird20

I think Rick Warren may want to be the “kingmaker” who can claim that it was HE who got Obama elected, IF, God forbid, it should actually happen.


102 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:22 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: Always Right

Rick Warren is leading Obama and telegraphing the answer he wants to hear. Obama just has to fill in the blank. Let’s see if McCain is given the “hints” for the right answer.


103 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:05 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Porterville

On evil...”Will good men do nothing?”


104 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:14 PM PDT by Huddled Masses ("There you go again...")
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To: Porterville

evil: 4 uhs.... 5...6....7.... 8...9...10,11, 12,13,14,15,16

Conclusion: Bush is evil.... good for him.


105 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:24 PM PDT by Porterville (Forgive my grammar, it sucks and I ain't doing a damn thing to correct it.)
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To: Tucker39

Warren is the False Prophet.


106 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:13 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: All

NO HE DIDN”T - he dissed my guy Clarence Thomas!

Clarence has more grace in his pinkie toe than Obama has in his whole body.


107 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:37 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (Praise the Lord, we will never have to hear the words "President Hillary Rodham Clinton")
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To: All

On confronting evil...”Evil must be confronted”, and then what??? Negotiate?? Aaaarrrggg!!!


108 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:42 PM PDT by Eric (Psychological tests prove Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: Porterville
Conclusion: Bush is evil.... good for him.

Yeah, Obama sees more evil in the US than he does the rest of the world.

109 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:53 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Blogger

I’m starting to believe that, too, Brother Blogger.


110 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:06 PM PDT by DesertDreamer ("I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Porterville
Every time he says um I’ll have a sip of wine.

I'd get your posts in now, then. Won't be long before you can't find the computer keyboard. :-)

111 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:16 PM PDT by Glenmerle
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To: montag813

Clarence Thomas - Evil and incompetent.
Scalia - Competent and evil.
Roberts - Compelling but evil.


112 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:18 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (The first amendment doesn't end with "...as long as nobody is offended.")
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To: combat_boots

SC Justices: 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,

Conclusion: Bush’s are evil as a family.


113 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:34 PM PDT by Porterville (Forgive my grammar, it sucks and I ain't doing a damn thing to correct it.)
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To: Delphinium

NMow he is trashing Scalia and Clarence Thomas. Trying to be more polite about John Roberts even though he is clearly against these types of Justices.


114 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:35 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Rebelbase; anglian

Thanks. I’ve watching it on CNN.com. :)

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream2


115 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:39 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Warren asked him which Supreme Court Justice would he not have nominated.

He answered Clarence Thomas or Scalia. He disagrees with them, of course.

He finds Justice Roberts to be compelling and thoughtful.


116 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:46 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Huddled Masses

M Scott Peck on evil:

There really are people and institutions made up of people, who respond with hatred in the presence of goodness and would destroy the good insofar as it is in their power to do so. They do this not with conscious malice but blindly, lacking awareness of their own evil — indeed, seeking to avoid any such awareness. As has been described of the devil in religious literature, they hate the light and instinctively will do anything to avoid it, including attempting to extinguish it. They will destroy the light in their own children and in all other beings subject to their power.

Evil people hate the light because it reveals themselves to themselves. They hate goodness because it reveals their badness; they hate love because it reveals their laziness. They will destroy the light, the goodness, the love in order to avoid the pain of such self-awareness. My second conclusion, then, is that evil is laziness carried to its ultimate, extraordinary extreme. As I have defined it, love is the antithesis of laziness. Ordinary laziness is a passive failure to love. Some ordinarily lazy people may not lift a finger to extend themselves unless they are compelled to do so. Their being is a manifestation of nonlove; still, they are not evil.

Truly evil people, on the other hand, actively rather than passively avoid extending themselves. They will take any action in their power to protect their own laziness, to preserve the integrity of their sick self. Rather than nurturing others, they will actually destroy others in this cause. If necessary, they will even kill to escape the pain of their own spiritual growth. As the integrity of their sick self is threatened by the spiritual health of those around them, they will seek by all manner of means to crush and demolish the spiritual health that may exist near them.

I define evil, then, as the exercise of political power — that is, the imposition of one’s will upon others by overt or covert coercion — in order to avoid extending one’s self for the purpose of nurturing spiritual growth. Ordinary laziness is nonlove; evil is antilove.”


117 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Glenmerle

I think he has already fell off the keyboard!


118 posted on 08/16/2008 5:35:07 PM PDT by TommyJoe
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To: UFC Pride K1

Obama’s make up looks like he is auditioning for Robert Downey’s role in Tropic Thunder 2.
Maybe spending a week in the sun wasn’t such a good idea.
The extremely annoying head tilt validates his weak spine.
This is worse than a root canal without anesthesia.


119 posted on 08/16/2008 5:35:08 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Delphinium

His position would make more sense if he didn’t think there was a moral and ethical aspect to abortion wouldn’t it?


120 posted on 08/16/2008 5:35:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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