Our lemming-like media rushes to get a storyline for major events and once fixed, it is difficult to dislodge or correct. We saw it in Kosovo. We saw it leading up to Iraq. We need to learn to not buy into the myth being hyped by media mavens and those who perceive a political gain from choosing a "side" early on.
I liked this article because it addressed some of the basics of human nature. It also advocates the banning of the Hitler analogy, which I am all for.
1 posted on
08/15/2008 7:26:31 AM PDT by
chickadee
To: chickadee
“I cannot know, I am not Ossetian.” It is so stupid the way libs refuse to have opinions on anything that does not impact them personally. Talk about giving up adulthood, individuality, personhood, reasoning, logic, thoughtfulness. And they couch it in such magnanimous terms. Folks like that are easily led.
2 posted on
08/15/2008 7:31:15 AM PDT by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: chickadee
Sounds like Hitler to me... afterall, this is how world wars are started. And yet, when America goes in to free a country from an evil dictator its wrong.
3 posted on
08/15/2008 7:31:30 AM PDT by
mouse1
(I'VE BEEN CALLED A REDNECK BIGOT AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!)
To: chickadee
I have to agree that Putin is not Hitler. Putin is just as ambitious as Hitler but he is much brighter and their fore MUCH more dangerous!
4 posted on
08/15/2008 7:32:15 AM PDT by
WellyP
To: chickadee
. It also advocates the banning of the Hitler analogy, which I am all for. The Hitler analogy is apt. Putin has carried out this war crime in exactly the same way that Hitler did in the Sudetenland. Exactly.
5 posted on
08/15/2008 7:32:43 AM PDT by
pgkdan
(Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
To: chickadee
None of this gives Russia the right to do what it did. They are indeed acting in a fascist-like way comparable to Hitler's excuses when he invaded his neighbors.
As for the Hitler analogy, I'm all for it when it's apt as it is in this case.
6 posted on
08/15/2008 7:34:39 AM PDT by
Antoninus
(McCain/Palin in 2008!)
To: chickadee
This is a load of crap.
There are roughly 500,000 Ossetians living in the historical region of Ossetia.
90% of them live in North Ossetia, which is in Russia.
We have not heard a peep of any movement for independence or self-determination from the vast majority of Ossetians living inside the borders of Russia.
Apparently only Ossetians living in Georgia feel the need for nationhood - Ossetians who live in Russia have magically lost all national sentiments.
And the Ossetians who live in Georgia all have Russian passports - apparently their national pride which makes them disdain having a Georgian passport doesn't extend to having a Russian passport.
Spout your propaganda for National Socialist Russia elsewhere.
7 posted on
08/15/2008 7:35:19 AM PDT by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: chickadee
And Putin has acted
precisely as Hitler acted in the Sudetenland with reference to Georgia.
Rarely has history repeated itself in such explicit detail.
8 posted on
08/15/2008 7:36:59 AM PDT by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: chickadee
The chechens ans cossacks systematically killing Georgians in the caucacus mountain villages isnt genocide?
11 posted on
08/15/2008 7:39:09 AM PDT by
mylife
(The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
To: chickadee
So, this guy's argument seems to be that Putin is not Hitler, because Hitler was right about Sudetenland...therefore we should go along with whatever Putin wants to do.
Not really sure I follow his logic. He seemed to actually make the point that Putin is Hitler, but that we shouldn't really concern ourselves anyhow.
12 posted on
08/15/2008 7:39:40 AM PDT by
B Knotts
(Calvin Coolidge Republican)
To: chickadee
We need to learn to not buy into the myth being hyped by media mavens and those who perceive a political gain from choosing a "side" early on. The claim of Russia that 2,000 Ossentians killed has been debunked, so don't even bother pretending there is moral equivalence between Russia and Georgia. And I hate to bother you with this concept, but we better damn well be taking sides here. Unless you LIKE what Putin has done to free speech and basic rights in Russia.
15 posted on
08/15/2008 7:43:27 AM PDT by
dirtboy
To: chickadee
20 posted on
08/15/2008 7:48:56 AM PDT by
Calpernia
(Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
To: chickadee
It also advocates the banning of the Hitler analogy, which I am all for.You know what would be really awesome? If you banned making Hitler analogies, then opened up concentration camps and gas chambers for people who violate your ban.
That would be killer.
To: chickadee; All
To: chickadee
I tried to be objective when I first read about this war too, but the more you read the more the Russian line doesn't pass the smell test. I watched the Brookings Institute presentation on C-Span last night. I always thought they were fairly left wing, so I expected it to be a blame Bush fest. Surprised to find it wasn't and they weren't very sympathetic to the Russians. Also in the American Enterprise Institute’s presentation (despite their extreme dislike of the Russians), they convinced me that the Russians had to have been primed and ready to invade and not just to defend in the event of an attack. Also look at how the Russians have constructed their argument to defend Ossetia as the mirror image of Kosovo. They intended this for some time. Actually I think NATO, us, and the EU went too far in pummeling Serbia back then, so maybe this is the payback. I still remember seeing the image out of that missiles nose camera right before it hit a civilian Serb train. We had no business doing that. Still Putin is no sweetheart:
October 2006 - campaigning Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya shot dead in Moscow
Sept 2006 - first deputy chairman of Russia's central bank Andrei Kozlov shot dead in Moscow
Oct 2005 - former bank head Alexander Slesarev gunned down near Moscow
July 2004 - US editor of Forbes’ Russian edition Paul Klebnikov shot dead in Moscow
Oct 2002 - Magadan governor Valentin Tsvetkov killed in Moscow
Nov 1998 - liberal MP Galina Starovoitova killed in St Petersburg
March 1995 - leading journalist Vladislav Listyev shot dead in Moscow
I don't know how much responsibility Putin bears for these types of things, but again it doesn't pass the smell test.
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