Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
Top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are urging John McCain not to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights, warning of dire consequences from a Republican base already unenthused about their nominee.
McCains comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standards Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridges pro-abortion rights views wouldnt necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives. For those who have been anxiously awaiting McCains pick as a signal of his ideological intentions, there was deep concern that their worst fears about the Arizona senator may be realized.
It absolutely floored me, said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values. It would doom him in Ohio.
Burress emailed about a dozen pro-family leaders he knows outside Ohio and forwarded it to three McCain aides tasked with Christian conservative outreach.
That choice will end his bid for the presidency and spell defeat for other Republican candidates, Burress wrote in the message.
He and other Ohio conservatives met privately with McCain in June, and while the nominee didnt promise them an anti-abortion rights running mate, his staff said they could almost guarantee that would be the case, Burress recalled.
Now, Burress said, hes not even sure [Christian conservatives] would vote for him let alone work for him if he picked a pro-abortion running mate.
James Muffett, head of Michigans Citizens for Traditional Values, met with McCain along with a handful of other Michigan-based social conservatives Wednesday night.
A good portion of us were urging him to pick a pro-life running mate, Muffett said, noting that they were doing so before even getting wind of the Standard story. That choice would go a long way to solidify his credentials.
Muffett said McCain didnt offer any promises on the issue, but rather reiterated his anti-abortion record and assured them that he was aware of how critical the base was to the electoral success of Republican presidents dating back to Ronald Reagan.
To select a running mate who supports abortion rights would be wrong-headed, short-sighted, fracture the Republican Party and not allow us to capitalize on the Democratic Partys fracture right now, Muffett argued.
If he does that, it makes our job 100 times harder. It would dampen enthusiasm at a time when evangelicals are looking for ways to gin up enthusiasm.
McCain, Muffett said, got that message in their meeting.
Some people in the movement say it would be the kiss of death. He heard that in the room last night.
With polls showing McCain and Obama still neck-and-neck in many competitive states, conservatives argue that their candidate must turn out Christian conservatives in large numbers to win.
In Iowa, for example, many in the GOP say Bush won in 2004 after losing there in 2000 because he bolstered turnout among the religious right in the conservative western part of the state and in exurban areas.
Bush only won by 10,000 votes, recalled Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance and a Republican committeeman from the state. Youre going to have to have a huge turnout of that base again for McCain to win.
And, Scheffler noted, its not just a matter of ensuring that social conservatives vote picking a supporter of abortion rights could erode McCains volunteer base.
Ninety percent of the workforce for Bush in 04 came out of that constituency, he said, alluding to the Christian right. Picking a Ridge or a [Joseph] Lieberman would not be helpful at all.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra, who represents a conservative, heavily Dutch district in western Michigan where Republicans traditionally pile up huge margins, said a pro-abortion rights running mate would be problematic.
Thats not where theyd want him going, Hoekstra said of the party base.
McCains campaign sought to tamp down the uproar, suggesting the candidate had merely been overly expansive about a sensitive topic and hadnt intended to float a trial balloon.
The point that McCain was making is that people can differ on one issue and still be a vital member of our party, said an aide. The fact that Governor Ridge is not perfectly in line with the party platform does not make him any less of a Republican.
In the interview, McCain said the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party.
And I also feel that and I'm not trying to equivocate here that Americans want us to work together. You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don't think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out [for vice-president].
He added: I think it's a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life, but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a albeit strong but just it's a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that.
The GOP base aside, some observers believe that picking an outside-the-box running mate such as Lieberman could help McCain with the broad middle of the country who are fed up with the political status quo and enable him to pick off even more Clinton backers.
This move to a pro-choice running mate such as Lieberman could help reshape his message to appeal to swing voters, said Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster who worked for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg when he was a Republican and has written a book about moving away from the two-party system. The right-wing is not going anywhere and choice is a key issue for over-40 women who voted for Hillary in the primaries.
But to some in the GOP who supported other candidates in the primary and are having trouble mustering much enthusiasm for McCain, the mere mention of a pro-choice running mate is disheartening.
A lot of the troops here are on the fence or disappointed, said Elizabeth Sipfle, a Michigan Republican and former leader of Mike Huckabees grassroots Hucks Army organization who contacted Politico to register her concern. Lets not get our blood boiling.
Be smart, she urged McCain. Theres a big group here thats already feeling marginalized.
The job of the court is to look to the constitution, as written. They do not need any moral guidance, either from "evolving standards of decency", or the Bible. It ain't their job.
Since all Laws are legislated morality and the Founders made it abundantly clear the role morality plays in our government and its institutions; how can SCOTUS function without moral guidance?
I like your profile page. Many of us are pretty uptight about McCain’s choice. Please bear that in mind.
True. Unfortunately, the oligarchs are seeking to legislate immorality from the bench.
” ... and the Founders made it abundantly clear the role morality plays in our government and its institutions ...”
And they wanted the actual legislators to be elected— vetted by the voter [and the senate to be appointed by the state legislators in the early days].
” ... how can SCOTUS function without moral guidance? ...”
They're taught moral relativism these days. Considering the Kelo decision, I think that moral relativism isn't working.
“So you’re suggesting that conservatives should focus more on hearth, home, and community instead of mealy-mouthed promises from cynical politicians? ;)”
Just about two lines down I said, “So we have to fight on both fronts... it aint everybodys cup of tea to fight the same way. God made us like that so we could each strengthen the others weakness.”
It’s all about balance and finding your voice and your place. All different Christians have all different callings, as many callings as there are personalities.
And, yes... I agree with you that we cannot trust mealy-mouthed politicians.
“The outcome is ultimately in the hands of the Lord himself. We cannot create Heaven on Earth, but, as you stated earlier, we can strengthen our bonds and influence where it really counts. A nation that, according to many polls, is seventy-five to eighty-five percent “Christian,” which allows all of this has either been duped by pollsters or duped by persistent, progressive secularism. My money’s with the latter.”
I couldn’t agree more. The battle is the Lord’s, but not to the point we just hunker and wait. Moses didn’t gauge public opinion or even wait for one man to agree. We have God’s word as our guide and the added blessing of like-minded Christian conservatives. We disagree seldom on the major moral questions unless it’s to pic a nit.
Enemy in the general sense... or in an idealogical sense... or in a very real sense when it comes to fighting immorality and injustice.
More specifically, Obama and Hillary and Teddy and Reid and.........
I’m grieving right along with the rest about McCain.
It’s easier to swallow this bitter pill if I think
of a McCain vote as a NObama vote.
Are you saying that McCain is chosesn a VP???
About Alinsky...
Hillary actually crossed paths with him and I believe was going to work for him. Obama is too young to have actually met him, but he is a member of his organization.
ALINSKY’S RULES FOR REVOLUTION
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1972236/posts
Alinsky helped to establish the confrontational political tactics, which he termed organizing, that characterized the 1960s and have remained central to all subsequent revolutionary movements in the United States. Both Obama and Clinton are committed disciples of Alinskys very specific strategies for social change.
Obama never met Alinsky personally; the latter died when Obama was a young boy. But Obama was trained by the Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago...
Alinskys crowning achievement was his recruitment of a young high school student named Hillary Rodham...They remained friends until Alinskys death in 1972....
No, you caught me there: I have not been praying as diligently as I should, as a Christian, for this. The Slough of Despond has gotten the better of me of late.
Thank you for that much-needed reminder.
BTW a case could be made that we should be praying not only for revival, but for reformation in the church - as in a return to Luther and Calvin. It is however difficult to discuss that within an interest group this broad.
Just pray as God leads. He is calling out the warriors. Be one!
Thank you. I saved the post in my Obama file. Alinski was a piece of work.
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