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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are urging John McCain not to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights, warning of dire consequences from a Republican base already unenthused about their nominee.

McCain’s comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge’s pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives. For those who have been anxiously awaiting McCain’s pick as a signal of his ideological intentions, there was deep concern that their worst fears about the Arizona senator may be realized.

“It absolutely floored me,” said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values. “It would doom him in Ohio.”

Burress emailed about a dozen “pro-family leaders” he knows outside Ohio and forwarded it to three McCain aides tasked with Christian conservative outreach.

“That choice will end his bid for the presidency and spell defeat for other Republican candidates,” Burress wrote in the message.

He and other Ohio conservatives met privately with McCain in June, and while the nominee didn’t promise them an anti-abortion rights running mate, his staff said they could “almost guarantee” that would be the case, Burress recalled.


Now, Burress said, “he’s not even sure [Christian conservatives] would vote for him let alone work for him if he picked a pro-abortion running mate.”

James Muffett, head of Michigan’s Citizens for Traditional Values, met with McCain along with a handful of other Michigan-based social conservatives Wednesday night.

“A good portion of us were urging him to pick a pro-life running mate,” Muffett said, noting that they were doing so before even getting wind of the Standard story. “That choice would go a long way to solidify his credentials.”

Muffett said McCain didn’t offer any promises on the issue, but rather reiterated his anti-abortion record and assured them that he was aware of how critical the base was to the electoral success of Republican presidents dating back to Ronald Reagan.

To select a running mate who supports abortion rights would be “wrong-headed, short-sighted, fracture the Republican Party and not allow us to capitalize on the Democratic Party’s fracture right now,” Muffett argued.

“If he does that, it makes our job 100 times harder. It would dampen enthusiasm at a time when evangelicals are looking for ways to gin up enthusiasm.”


McCain, Muffett said, got that message in their meeting.

“Some people in the movement say it would be the kiss of death. He heard that in the room last night.”

With polls showing McCain and Obama still neck-and-neck in many competitive states, conservatives argue that their candidate must turn out Christian conservatives in large numbers to win.

In Iowa, for example, many in the GOP say Bush won in 2004 after losing there in 2000 because he bolstered turnout among the religious right in the conservative western part of the state and in exurban areas.

“Bush only won by 10,000 votes,” recalled Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance and a Republican committeeman from the state. “You’re going to have to have a huge turnout of that base again for McCain to win.”

And, Scheffler noted, it’s not just a matter of ensuring that social conservatives vote – picking a supporter of abortion rights could erode McCain’s volunteer base.

“Ninety percent of the workforce for Bush in ’04 came out of that constituency,” he said, alluding to the Christian right. “Picking a Ridge or a [Joseph] Lieberman would not be helpful at all.”

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, who represents a conservative, heavily Dutch district in western Michigan where Republicans traditionally pile up huge margins, said a pro-abortion rights running mate “would be problematic.”

“That’s not where they’d want him going,” Hoekstra said of the party base.

McCain’s campaign sought to tamp down the uproar, suggesting the candidate had merely been overly expansive about a sensitive topic and hadn’t intended to float a trial balloon.

“The point that McCain was making is that people can differ on one issue and still be a vital member of our party,” said an aide. “The fact that Governor Ridge is not perfectly in line with the party platform does not make him any less of a Republican.”

In the interview, McCain said “the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party.”


“And I also feel that — and I'm not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together. You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don't think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out [for vice-president].”

He added: “I think it's a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life, but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a — albeit strong — but just it's a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that.”

The GOP base aside, some observers believe that picking an outside-the-box running mate such as Lieberman could help McCain with the broad middle of the country who are fed up with the political status quo and enable him to pick off even more Clinton backers.

“This move to a pro-choice running mate such as Lieberman could help reshape his message to appeal to swing voters,” said Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster who worked for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg when he was a Republican and has written a book about moving away from the two-party system. “The right-wing is not going anywhere and choice is a key issue for over-40 women who voted for Hillary in the primaries.”

But to some in the GOP who supported other candidates in the primary and are having trouble mustering much enthusiasm for McCain, the mere mention of a pro-choice running mate is disheartening.

“A lot of the troops here are on the fence or disappointed,” said Elizabeth Sipfle, a Michigan Republican and former leader of Mike Huckabee’s grassroots “Huck’s Army” organization who contacted Politico to register her concern. “Let’s not get our blood boiling.”


“Be smart,” she urged McCain. “There’s a big group here that’s already feeling marginalized.”


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; abortion; gopcoup; mccain; mccainlist; rino; rinorevolution; tomridge
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To: Jo Nuvark
" we have not been forced to kill our babies. Abortion statistics are staggering because we (yes, I mean Judeo-Christians) have chosen to murder our unborn."

"We have chosen?" Since I believe in the death penalty, I should probably execute myself, right?

THEY have chosen, and we have done a poor job of persuasion.

121 posted on 08/14/2008 10:54:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Re Wm Ayers: 'sOKay ta be friends wid Da Ladykiller, cuz Da Mayr knowz um!)
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

[... I’m doubtful (Gordon worked for the NRO) because he
seems to have made use of his opposable thumbs and speech capabilities...]

Snort! But seriously. I like National Review.


122 posted on 08/14/2008 10:56:36 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Deo volente

Only silver lining to Obama, if he wins, he won’t tarnish the Republican brand further. BHO could play Carter to our next Reagan.


123 posted on 08/14/2008 10:57:03 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Jo Nuvark
Just a little more time and I would have figured it out... NOT! (scratching head)

It's one of those funny little Mensa quiz questions.
124 posted on 08/14/2008 10:57:22 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
I like National Review.

Let me guess, you only read it for the articles.
125 posted on 08/14/2008 10:58:09 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Dick Holmes
"BHO could play Carter to our next Reagan."

..... or he could play Woodrow Wilson to our next Harding..... :^(

I don't like to place my hopes in getting off easy with a 1-term Obambi followed by a new Reagan who we cannot yet identify.

126 posted on 08/14/2008 10:59:16 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama-cons: Trying to fool America, one media dupe at a time!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
pssst: Don’t forget global warming ... err climate change ... err the mini-ice age ... err whatever.

I can't believe we're stuck with this disaster as the nominee.
127 posted on 08/14/2008 11:01:49 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

[... Let me guess, you only read NRO for the articles...]

I have this cute little yellow spa ducky that has
a thermometer up it’s ducky butt. I named him
William F. Duckley. Does that answer your question?


128 posted on 08/14/2008 11:03:07 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker
Ridge would be a horrible choice.
129 posted on 08/14/2008 11:04:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

Aha... Mensa. How smart could you be if you forgot
that I only have a slightly above average intelligence?

Hmmmm?


130 posted on 08/14/2008 11:05:14 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
"Abortion statistics are staggering because we (yes, I mean Judeo-Christians) have chosen to murder our unborn. "

I humbly disagree- Judeo-Christians don't murder their babies, Democrats murder their babies.

131 posted on 08/14/2008 11:11:26 PM PDT by matthew fuller (I'm John McCain, and I hereby repudiate and disavow all Republican and Conservative values.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

How interesting and insightful you bring up the point that our nation was founded and organized into law under the Judeo Christian value system. These days it’s bad if you mention the word Jesus but it is good if you talk about the Gay Rights parade and legalized status of Gay marriage. That is what our national leaders are focused on?!?


132 posted on 08/14/2008 11:11:54 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: mrsmel

Already voting Ron Paul. McCain is an economic mental dwarf.


133 posted on 08/14/2008 11:13:12 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: mrsmel

Already voting Ron Paul. McCain is an economic mental dwarf.


134 posted on 08/14/2008 11:13:13 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Jo Nuvark
I have this cute little yellow spa ducky that has a thermometer up it’s ducky butt.

So your duck is considering an editorial position with NR?

I named him William F. Duckley. Does that answer your question?

Not really. When Bill Buckley still ran the magazine in a meaningful capacity, things were at least a bit better than they are now. The late William F. Buckley, Jr. was a greater man than these hacks that are running National Review now.

The dream team of National Review editors and columnists, i.e., Burnham, Sobran, Williamson, and the like, left for more independent conservative ventures.

NR is now comprised of neocon toaster shakings.
135 posted on 08/14/2008 11:15:07 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Aha... Mensa. How smart could you be if you forgot that I only have a slightly above average intelligence?

You don't speak Esperanto, do you? ;)
136 posted on 08/14/2008 11:16:18 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: jbarntt

That is close to my point. I specifically stated it was not about abortion. What it was about was that individuals and states have more rights than merely those enumerated in the Constitution.

Those who hold individuals only have rights enumerated in the Constitution are depriving individuals of their rights. Therefore, we may have a right to privacy, even though it is not enumerated in the Constitution. The original poster implied the opposite.

I agree with you that if Roe vs. Wade is overturned, then the situtation will revert to what it was prior, ie, the legality of abortion would depend on the individual states.


137 posted on 08/14/2008 11:16:33 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: jbarntt

Wouldn’t disagree. But is Joe still stuck on carbon credits? That little trick to attempt to tax the global citizen to pay for the boomer deficit benefits shortall to the tune of $2 T is extremely offensive to me. Other ways to keep our promises (which should never had been made in the first place). Those choices are hard, but staying on our current economic monetary policy is madness. It’s forcing the debt on the entire Middle Class through inflation and destroying this group while destroying the boomer pension and SS in the process.


138 posted on 08/14/2008 11:16:40 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: mnehrling
Wow, I'm glad we have the MSM to honestly, with no bias, tell us what a candidate means when they say something.. I mean jeeze.. if it weren't for the MSM, the letters VP wouldn't be found anywhere in McCain's statement... boy, I'm sure glad I don't have to think for myself.. just trust the MSM...

You know I have been seeing nonsense posts like this ever since these reports ABOUT WHAT MCCAIN HIMSELF HAD STATED.

"McCain’s comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge’s pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives"

It isn't the MSM telling us this, it is the Weekly Standard, a conservative web-site and magazine reporting what MCCAIN HIMSELF STATED.

What part of this is so hard for you to understand?
139 posted on 08/14/2008 11:20:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I don’t know. The ultimate ramifications of your position get pretty bizarre.

Penalties for theft are moral in nature. Enforcement of contracts are moral in nature. Penalty for kidnap is moral in nature, as are laws against all forms of child abuse and neglect. To just leave the one form of child abuse known as abortion out of the equation seems inconsistent.

Or would we just allow people to do whatever they want to kids in your “nation management” strategy? I’d hope not.


140 posted on 08/14/2008 11:35:50 PM PDT by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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