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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are urging John McCain not to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights, warning of dire consequences from a Republican base already unenthused about their nominee.

McCain’s comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge’s pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives. For those who have been anxiously awaiting McCain’s pick as a signal of his ideological intentions, there was deep concern that their worst fears about the Arizona senator may be realized.

“It absolutely floored me,” said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values. “It would doom him in Ohio.”

Burress emailed about a dozen “pro-family leaders” he knows outside Ohio and forwarded it to three McCain aides tasked with Christian conservative outreach.

“That choice will end his bid for the presidency and spell defeat for other Republican candidates,” Burress wrote in the message.

He and other Ohio conservatives met privately with McCain in June, and while the nominee didn’t promise them an anti-abortion rights running mate, his staff said they could “almost guarantee” that would be the case, Burress recalled.


Now, Burress said, “he’s not even sure [Christian conservatives] would vote for him let alone work for him if he picked a pro-abortion running mate.”

James Muffett, head of Michigan’s Citizens for Traditional Values, met with McCain along with a handful of other Michigan-based social conservatives Wednesday night.

“A good portion of us were urging him to pick a pro-life running mate,” Muffett said, noting that they were doing so before even getting wind of the Standard story. “That choice would go a long way to solidify his credentials.”

Muffett said McCain didn’t offer any promises on the issue, but rather reiterated his anti-abortion record and assured them that he was aware of how critical the base was to the electoral success of Republican presidents dating back to Ronald Reagan.

To select a running mate who supports abortion rights would be “wrong-headed, short-sighted, fracture the Republican Party and not allow us to capitalize on the Democratic Party’s fracture right now,” Muffett argued.

“If he does that, it makes our job 100 times harder. It would dampen enthusiasm at a time when evangelicals are looking for ways to gin up enthusiasm.”


McCain, Muffett said, got that message in their meeting.

“Some people in the movement say it would be the kiss of death. He heard that in the room last night.”

With polls showing McCain and Obama still neck-and-neck in many competitive states, conservatives argue that their candidate must turn out Christian conservatives in large numbers to win.

In Iowa, for example, many in the GOP say Bush won in 2004 after losing there in 2000 because he bolstered turnout among the religious right in the conservative western part of the state and in exurban areas.

“Bush only won by 10,000 votes,” recalled Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance and a Republican committeeman from the state. “You’re going to have to have a huge turnout of that base again for McCain to win.”

And, Scheffler noted, it’s not just a matter of ensuring that social conservatives vote – picking a supporter of abortion rights could erode McCain’s volunteer base.

“Ninety percent of the workforce for Bush in ’04 came out of that constituency,” he said, alluding to the Christian right. “Picking a Ridge or a [Joseph] Lieberman would not be helpful at all.”

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, who represents a conservative, heavily Dutch district in western Michigan where Republicans traditionally pile up huge margins, said a pro-abortion rights running mate “would be problematic.”

“That’s not where they’d want him going,” Hoekstra said of the party base.

McCain’s campaign sought to tamp down the uproar, suggesting the candidate had merely been overly expansive about a sensitive topic and hadn’t intended to float a trial balloon.

“The point that McCain was making is that people can differ on one issue and still be a vital member of our party,” said an aide. “The fact that Governor Ridge is not perfectly in line with the party platform does not make him any less of a Republican.”

In the interview, McCain said “the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party.”


“And I also feel that — and I'm not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together. You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don't think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out [for vice-president].”

He added: “I think it's a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life, but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a — albeit strong — but just it's a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that.”

The GOP base aside, some observers believe that picking an outside-the-box running mate such as Lieberman could help McCain with the broad middle of the country who are fed up with the political status quo and enable him to pick off even more Clinton backers.

“This move to a pro-choice running mate such as Lieberman could help reshape his message to appeal to swing voters,” said Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster who worked for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg when he was a Republican and has written a book about moving away from the two-party system. “The right-wing is not going anywhere and choice is a key issue for over-40 women who voted for Hillary in the primaries.”

But to some in the GOP who supported other candidates in the primary and are having trouble mustering much enthusiasm for McCain, the mere mention of a pro-choice running mate is disheartening.

“A lot of the troops here are on the fence or disappointed,” said Elizabeth Sipfle, a Michigan Republican and former leader of Mike Huckabee’s grassroots “Huck’s Army” organization who contacted Politico to register her concern. “Let’s not get our blood boiling.”


“Be smart,” she urged McCain. “There’s a big group here that’s already feeling marginalized.”


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; abortion; gopcoup; mccain; mccainlist; rino; rinorevolution; tomridge
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To: Jo Nuvark
You’ve been lurking on the beer thread again.Is there really a beer thread (redux)? ;)
101 posted on 08/14/2008 10:19:04 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Morality is personal and none of the Government’s business

American republican governance turned on its head.

102 posted on 08/14/2008 10:19:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Reagan: "It's morning in America." - McCain Republicans: "It's night and you'll learn to like it!")
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To: Gordon Greene

[... I haven’t figured out how to send to more than one at a time...]

In the to line add a freeper name, then a comma.

Gordon Greene, Das Outsider, Jo Nuvark, Semaj, etc.


103 posted on 08/14/2008 10:20:46 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Gordon Greene; Jo Nuvark
That was funny! I found this place after being on a site filled with liberal writers.

You worked for National Review Online?
104 posted on 08/14/2008 10:20:46 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Das Outsider

My gosh... now I gotta know the Kang’s Anglish!?!

In the immortal words of the great Homer (Simpson), Why do I need English? I’m never goin’ to England”.


105 posted on 08/14/2008 10:23:01 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: Das Outsider

What the... was it the screen name that gave me away?


106 posted on 08/14/2008 10:24:55 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: Gordon Greene
My gosh... now I gotta know the Kang’s Anglish!?!

Or the Jefe's Spanglish. Odds are, our king isn't going to be of Anglo-Saxon descent, so don't go practicing your Victorian, Early Modern English verb endings just yet.

In the immortal words of the great Homer (Simpson), Why do I need English? I’m never goin’ to England”.

In the immortal words of the original Homer, "You guys are so screwed."
107 posted on 08/14/2008 10:29:07 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Gordon Greene
What the... was it the screen name that gave me away?

You used the terms "liberal,""writers," and "site," so I followed up on a hunch. ;)

You don't exactly sound like a new convert from the Huffington Post, you know.
108 posted on 08/14/2008 10:31:53 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: jbarntt
That is my opinion.

Which opinion is destroying our free republic.

Alienate the God-given right to life and you've destroyed the cornerstone of liberty.

109 posted on 08/14/2008 10:34:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Reagan: "It's morning in America." - McCain Republicans: "It's night and you'll learn to like it!")
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

GG: My gosh... now I gotta know the Kang’s Anglish!?!

DO: Or the Jefe’s Spanglish. Odds are, our king isn’t going to be of Anglo-Saxon descent, so don’t go practicing your Victorian, Early Modern English verb endings just yet.

GG: In the immortal words of the great Homer (Simpson), Why do I need English? I’m never goin’ to England”.

DO: In the immortal words of the original Homer, “You guys are so screwed.”

Mr. Nitro, meet Mr. Glycerin.

Did you really work for NRO?


110 posted on 08/14/2008 10:36:35 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: jbarntt
Just as I don't want New Yorker's to dictate to to me as an Oregonian, I do not wish to dictate to them

"Let the blood run in the streets, as long as it isn't my street."

Or something like that.

111 posted on 08/14/2008 10:37:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Reagan: "It's morning in America." - McCain Republicans: "It's night and you'll learn to like it!")
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To: Jo Nuvark; Gordon Greene
Since no one answered the question, here is the answer:

Q: Bill agitates the Budweiser. Explain. Hint: August.

A: William Shakespeare. Sound it out. The hint was a reference to "A Midsummer Night's Dream." Mid-August is still midsummer, isn't it?
112 posted on 08/14/2008 10:43:09 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Didn't surprise me one bit. I expected nothing less.

The only ones whose noses are out of joint about this seem to be the people who expect McCain to have these night-before-election-butterflies and suddenly do a double somersault behind himself and suddenly, *POOF* he's gonna be a conservative or a reasonable facsimile.

It AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! He's a lib. He's always been a lib! He's always gonna BE a lib! He WANTS to be a lib! He LIKES being a lib!

And the McCainiacs wishful thinking ain't gonna change a single thing.

They seem to think that just because he ain't out in the left field fringe that he's better than Obama.

HE'S JUST ABOUT THE SAME AS OBAMA! What's it take to get through these people's heads? Except for possibly his military background and support, he's no different from Obama/Hillary.

He only runs as a Rep cause he can't get elected as a Dem.

113 posted on 08/14/2008 10:47:34 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: Gordon Greene; Das Outsider; NFHale; semaj

I just bookmarked your website. http://www.fracturedrepublic.com/greene.html

That article about the Olympics and RAS-Putin’s
invasion of Soviet Georgia ... spot on! “Go World”
made me gag. I haven’t watched one bit of the
olympics because of that commercial. If I used
VISA I would cut up the card and mail it back to
them.

Chuck Missler has been predicting this for years.

Recently, I’ve been thinking the invasion of
Armageddon would be from the Chinese north because
they have a standing army of over 800 million.
But now that our entire military are in Iraq, (the
staging area for the return of our King), and the
Russian bear is back, me thinks it’s going to be
Russia from the north.

Still Watching. Looking for storm clouds and
listening for the trumpet.


114 posted on 08/14/2008 10:49:49 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker

Let’s see now...amnesty for illegals, a pro-abortion VP, reaching across the aisle, etc...

Why should I vote for him???

Oh, yeah. He’s not Obama.


115 posted on 08/14/2008 10:50:05 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Alter Kaker
Here we're talking about a veep for a 72 year old President.

Yep, he's already older than his dad was when he died. A pro-death veep of McCain's would have a good chance of stepping up.

116 posted on 08/14/2008 10:50:55 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: tioga
I am. The day McCain is Nominated, I'm sending in my paperwork to reaffiliate myself as an Independent until I decide what to do.

Ain't no way I'm voting for McCain. If we do, who the GOP gonna push at us next time? Linc Chaffee? Jim Jeffords?

No thanks.

117 posted on 08/14/2008 10:52:36 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: Jo Nuvark; Gordon Greene
Did you really work for NRO?

The true test (though I'm doubtful because he seems to have made use of his opposable thumbs and speech capabilities): Ask him to bang on a typewriter day in and day out, hoping to produce "The Merchant of Venice" in a few thousand years.

I'm sorry: it seems I am preoccupied with the Infinite Monkey Theorem. ;)
118 posted on 08/14/2008 10:53:45 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Deo volente

pssst: Don’t forget global warming ... err climate change ... err the mini-ice age ... err whatever.


119 posted on 08/14/2008 10:53:59 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: Das Outsider

Q: Bill agitates the Budweiser. Explain. Hint: August.

A: William Shakespeare. Sound it out. The hint was a reference to “A Midsummer Night’s Dream.” Mid-August is still midsummer, isn’t it?

Just a little more time and I would have figured it out... NOT! (scratching head)


120 posted on 08/14/2008 10:53:59 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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