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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: Jo Nuvark
" we have not been forced to kill our babies. Abortion statistics are staggering because we (yes, I mean Judeo-Christians) have chosen to murder our unborn."

"We have chosen?" Since I believe in the death penalty, I should probably execute myself, right?

THEY have chosen, and we have done a poor job of persuasion.

121 posted on 08/14/2008 10:54:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Re Wm Ayers: 'sOKay ta be friends wid Da Ladykiller, cuz Da Mayr knowz um!)
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

[... I’m doubtful (Gordon worked for the NRO) because he
seems to have made use of his opposable thumbs and speech capabilities...]

Snort! But seriously. I like National Review.


122 posted on 08/14/2008 10:56:36 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Deo volente

Only silver lining to Obama, if he wins, he won’t tarnish the Republican brand further. BHO could play Carter to our next Reagan.


123 posted on 08/14/2008 10:57:03 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: Jo Nuvark
Just a little more time and I would have figured it out... NOT! (scratching head)

It's one of those funny little Mensa quiz questions.
124 posted on 08/14/2008 10:57:22 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
I like National Review.

Let me guess, you only read it for the articles.
125 posted on 08/14/2008 10:58:09 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Dick Holmes
"BHO could play Carter to our next Reagan."

..... or he could play Woodrow Wilson to our next Harding..... :^(

I don't like to place my hopes in getting off easy with a 1-term Obambi followed by a new Reagan who we cannot yet identify.

126 posted on 08/14/2008 10:59:16 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama-cons: Trying to fool America, one media dupe at a time!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
pssst: Don’t forget global warming ... err climate change ... err the mini-ice age ... err whatever.

I can't believe we're stuck with this disaster as the nominee.
127 posted on 08/14/2008 11:01:49 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

[... Let me guess, you only read NRO for the articles...]

I have this cute little yellow spa ducky that has
a thermometer up it’s ducky butt. I named him
William F. Duckley. Does that answer your question?


128 posted on 08/14/2008 11:03:07 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker
Ridge would be a horrible choice.
129 posted on 08/14/2008 11:04:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

Aha... Mensa. How smart could you be if you forgot
that I only have a slightly above average intelligence?

Hmmmm?


130 posted on 08/14/2008 11:05:14 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
"Abortion statistics are staggering because we (yes, I mean Judeo-Christians) have chosen to murder our unborn. "

I humbly disagree- Judeo-Christians don't murder their babies, Democrats murder their babies.

131 posted on 08/14/2008 11:11:26 PM PDT by matthew fuller (I'm John McCain, and I hereby repudiate and disavow all Republican and Conservative values.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

How interesting and insightful you bring up the point that our nation was founded and organized into law under the Judeo Christian value system. These days it’s bad if you mention the word Jesus but it is good if you talk about the Gay Rights parade and legalized status of Gay marriage. That is what our national leaders are focused on?!?


132 posted on 08/14/2008 11:11:54 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: mrsmel

Already voting Ron Paul. McCain is an economic mental dwarf.


133 posted on 08/14/2008 11:13:12 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: mrsmel

Already voting Ron Paul. McCain is an economic mental dwarf.


134 posted on 08/14/2008 11:13:13 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Jo Nuvark
I have this cute little yellow spa ducky that has a thermometer up it’s ducky butt.

So your duck is considering an editorial position with NR?

I named him William F. Duckley. Does that answer your question?

Not really. When Bill Buckley still ran the magazine in a meaningful capacity, things were at least a bit better than they are now. The late William F. Buckley, Jr. was a greater man than these hacks that are running National Review now.

The dream team of National Review editors and columnists, i.e., Burnham, Sobran, Williamson, and the like, left for more independent conservative ventures.

NR is now comprised of neocon toaster shakings.
135 posted on 08/14/2008 11:15:07 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Aha... Mensa. How smart could you be if you forgot that I only have a slightly above average intelligence?

You don't speak Esperanto, do you? ;)
136 posted on 08/14/2008 11:16:18 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: jbarntt

That is close to my point. I specifically stated it was not about abortion. What it was about was that individuals and states have more rights than merely those enumerated in the Constitution.

Those who hold individuals only have rights enumerated in the Constitution are depriving individuals of their rights. Therefore, we may have a right to privacy, even though it is not enumerated in the Constitution. The original poster implied the opposite.

I agree with you that if Roe vs. Wade is overturned, then the situtation will revert to what it was prior, ie, the legality of abortion would depend on the individual states.


137 posted on 08/14/2008 11:16:33 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: jbarntt

Wouldn’t disagree. But is Joe still stuck on carbon credits? That little trick to attempt to tax the global citizen to pay for the boomer deficit benefits shortall to the tune of $2 T is extremely offensive to me. Other ways to keep our promises (which should never had been made in the first place). Those choices are hard, but staying on our current economic monetary policy is madness. It’s forcing the debt on the entire Middle Class through inflation and destroying this group while destroying the boomer pension and SS in the process.


138 posted on 08/14/2008 11:16:40 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: mnehrling
Wow, I'm glad we have the MSM to honestly, with no bias, tell us what a candidate means when they say something.. I mean jeeze.. if it weren't for the MSM, the letters VP wouldn't be found anywhere in McCain's statement... boy, I'm sure glad I don't have to think for myself.. just trust the MSM...

You know I have been seeing nonsense posts like this ever since these reports ABOUT WHAT MCCAIN HIMSELF HAD STATED.

"McCain’s comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge’s pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives"

It isn't the MSM telling us this, it is the Weekly Standard, a conservative web-site and magazine reporting what MCCAIN HIMSELF STATED.

What part of this is so hard for you to understand?
139 posted on 08/14/2008 11:20:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I don’t know. The ultimate ramifications of your position get pretty bizarre.

Penalties for theft are moral in nature. Enforcement of contracts are moral in nature. Penalty for kidnap is moral in nature, as are laws against all forms of child abuse and neglect. To just leave the one form of child abuse known as abortion out of the equation seems inconsistent.

Or would we just allow people to do whatever they want to kids in your “nation management” strategy? I’d hope not.


140 posted on 08/14/2008 11:35:50 PM PDT by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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