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George Bush squares up to Vladimir Putin over Georgia
Times Online ^ | August 13, 2008 | Tom Baldwin

Posted on 08/13/2008 12:55:16 PM PDT by Schnucki

President Bush dispatched US military hardware to the heart of the Caucasus today and warned Russia that it could be frozen out of international bodies as punishment for its aggression in Georgia.

In his toughest criticism of Russia since becoming President, Mr Bush accused Moscow of breaching the provisional ceasefire agreed with Georgia just 24 hours earlier.

He cited intelligence showing that Russian troops had again taken the town of Gori and could now divide the country and threaten the capital Tbilisi. He insisted that Moscow respect the former Soviet republic’s territorial integrity.

There were also reports of Russian-backed militia in South Ossetia looting ethnic Georgian villages and killing their inhabitants.

“To begin to repair the damage to its relations with the United States, Europe and other nations, and to begin restoring its place in the world, Russia must keep its word and act to end this crisis,” Mr Bush said.

It is understood that talks are already taking place with US allies, including Britain, about whether to suspend Russia’s prized membership of the G8 club of industrialised nations. There is also a growing clamour to block Russia from becoming part of the World Trade Organisation and to rescind an invitation for it to join the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Mr Bush’s statement, delivered in stern tones outside the White House, was a significantly stronger than that made last week, when his initially cautious comments reflected the State Department’s unhappiness with Georgia’s use of force against pro-Russian separatist rebels in South Ossetia.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: bush; caucasus; ceasefire; geopolitics; georgia; russia; southossetia; usa; usmilitary
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To: rabidralph

bttt


41 posted on 08/13/2008 4:48:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Tommyjo
Again more media gibberish. The military is on a humanitarian mission. Not a single piece of U.S. military hardware is flowing into Georgia.

Um, (((cough))), exactly...

42 posted on 08/13/2008 5:08:05 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: huldah1776

Yes, I’ve never seen that look from him before but I’m impressed with it.

Don’t know who the other is, I found this pic on the net in one of the Georgia articles from the msm.


43 posted on 08/13/2008 5:12:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: huldah1776
"..deaths of many there. Russian “peace keeping forces” have nobly carried out their duty to protect Russians against a regime accused of ethnic cleansing, the television and radio are saying. It is the old language of Russian patriotic propaganda, used over Chechnya and, before that, Afghanistan.." http://timescorrespondents.typepad.com/charles_bremner/2008/08/russia-is-bac-1.html

Well isn't this a replay of Clinton/Albright/EU/NATO when they bombed Yugoslavia? The lie and pretext being "ethnic cleansing, genocide, etc." Even though Russia didn't need a lessen in propaganda, as Putin was trained and practiced with the best of the Soviet era propagandists, the irony would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic. The false claims of genocide and ethnic cleansing created the perfect pretext for Putin. He's playing according to the rules set down by the West. The only one-upmanship the West have on him though, is that the press bought the false stories of Milosevic and the former Yugoslavia, hook, line and sinker. So those stories will maintain the supposed integrity and righteousness of the bombing of a sovereign country now reduced to the Republic of Serbia minus the latest piece of it Kosovo.

Only problem for Putin of course, is that while Clinton and his cabal were able to hoodwink almost everybody, very few people believe anything Putin says. But he is trying to play by their rules though.

44 posted on 08/13/2008 5:14:07 PM PDT by Lent
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To: HardStarboard

“The picture is telling. Bush appears intense, even angry. Putin appears defensive...”

I agree. GWB looks really annoyed with KGB.


45 posted on 08/13/2008 5:26:02 PM PDT by Canedawg
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To: jazusamo

Right after 911, oh yeah, he had lots of looks better than this one.


47 posted on 08/13/2008 5:37:25 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker

You are correct, he did have some better ones after 9/11.


48 posted on 08/13/2008 5:45:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Yehuda

For some reason I’m reminded of the scene in “Patton “ where he’s at a party at the end of the war with his staff and I’m guessing his Russian counter part with his staff and interpreter.

Int. “the General would like to make a toast”
Patton. “Tell the General I do not wish to drink with him,...or any other Russian Sonuvabitch.”
Int. “ but...sir i cannot tell the General that!”
Patton. “You tell him...word for word.”

Interpreter tells him...words exchanged...looks back at Patton.

Int. “ The General says he thinks you are a sonuvabitch too.”

Patton. (smiles) “ O.K....one sonuvabitch to another”

As they drink Patton has the look that says...I’ll be seeing you again...another day...another place.


49 posted on 08/13/2008 5:49:59 PM PDT by Ramzi Al Kaboom ("An opinion can be argued with...a conviction is best shot"..T. E. Lawrence)
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To: Schnucki

Good move. Lets Russia keep face, gives our ally aid, and doesn’t commit us to anything.


50 posted on 08/13/2008 6:08:32 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Yehuda

I thought it might have been the Jesse Jackson/Obabam thing without the middleman...


51 posted on 08/13/2008 6:09:07 PM PDT by Sal (9% Nan has Delusions of Adequacy and Reid is just plain siiiick.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It will be interesting to see how the Russians react at this stage. They have a hell of a lot more clout in the world economies then their Bolshevist grand dads had in the twenties. Oil and gas come to mind. And French President Nicolas Sarkozy can only go so far. Europe needs the natural gas to survive the winters.
The reality is Russia wants to regain it's lost footholds. And they have bargaining chips. For all we know, Putin and his gang are waiting with patience for signals from the G7 that they will no longer be welcome. Good excuse to go off and do what they do best. Divide and conquer.
52 posted on 08/13/2008 6:21:48 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Teflonic
I was kinda afraid of that. It wouldn't be the first time Russian soldiers were paid in “spoils”.
53 posted on 08/13/2008 7:05:53 PM PDT by singfreedom (Obama's solution to the energy crisis: check the air in your tires! Why didn't we think of that?)
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54 posted on 08/13/2008 7:08:32 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: huldah1776
Yes, prayers indeed. My nephew is one of those special forces types and we pray for him everyday, but be assured, those prayers will be acquiring a new intensity.
55 posted on 08/13/2008 7:13:26 PM PDT by singfreedom (Obama's solution to the energy crisis: check the air in your tires! Why didn't we think of that?)
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To: iThinkBig
Yes, Ames and Walker come to mind as prime examples. These two evil bastards should be hung out every day so each and every American can extract their own personal pound of flesh. I'm sure there are others that are performing their traitorous acts for our enemies.

Valerie Plame also comes to mind. The jury is still out, though, on whether Plame was an actual traitor or just unbelievably incompetent.

56 posted on 08/13/2008 7:22:27 PM PDT by singfreedom (Obama's solution to the energy crisis: check the air in your tires! Why didn't we think of that?)
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To: Yehuda

I just noticed that W’s tie is knotted way too tight in that photo. Does that mean something in diplomacy? Putin’s is too tight, as well.


57 posted on 08/13/2008 8:00:28 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: jazusamo; singfreedom; rabidralph; Canedawg
>>>Putin appears defensive and wrongfotted. <<<

LOL...it takes a real leader to "wrongfot" a guy like Putin.

Glad so many of you saw that moment....it was very telling.

Bush is playing a very delicate game...putting "humanitarian" aid troops {I'm sure their backup is close by!] into Georgia and hoping Putin will back down....it's a dicey moment.

58 posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:15 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out O)
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To: Schnucki

I think you can smell the hatred between our two nations. This hatred has never gone away. I’m just waiting to see who is going to be stupid enough to actually start a major war.

We have learned nothing from history. Nothing. It’s all the same shite.


60 posted on 08/14/2008 5:40:12 AM PDT by SQUID
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