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To: allmendream
"Natural selection of living organisms has nothing to do with the origin of those living organisms. Once in existence those organisms evolve by means of natural selection of genetic variation."

That's why I asked, "OK, then who believes that certain biological systems were not generated by natural selection, what are those systems and what generated them?"

You are the one who said, "Who believes all biological systems were generated by natural selection? Only idiots who don't understand that natural selection has nothing to do with the origins of life; it seems that this is YOUR critical “thinking” error."

I'm waiting for you to tell me who doesn't believe that all biological systems were generated by natural selection, what systems were not so generated, and what generated them?

If you can't answer that, then you are committing the fallacy of exclusion.

Evolution is a logical fallacy that is coupled with circular reasoning and based philosophical naturalism.

412 posted on 08/15/2008 11:30:43 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
So do you also feel that Gravity is committing the “fallacy of exclusion” by excluding the origin of mass?

Living systems DEVELOPED by means of natural selection. They did not originate or generate themselves by means of natural selection; and as previously stated, it doesn't matter HOW living systems were generated, once here they began to develop and differentiate by means of natural selection.

Living systems were generated, hypothetically, by abiogenic processes. Please research the Abiogeneis hypothesis and auto-catalytic RNA and get back to me.

416 posted on 08/15/2008 11:36:53 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: GourmetDan

In other words, the conclusions reached by evolution apologists, based on observations of the SAME EVIDENCE as evolution skeptics,

are reached by presupposing that evolution is the mechanism, and that the natural/material existance is all that there is.


418 posted on 08/15/2008 11:47:19 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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