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President Bush to Make Statement on Georgia-Russia Crisis at 5:15 p.m. EDT

Posted on 08/11/2008 12:32:16 PM PDT by Scythian

Headline only so far on fox news ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: actofwar; aggression; bush; geopolitics; georgia; georgianconflict; greatgame; putin; rumorsofwar; ruskies; russia; ussr; war
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To: El Gato
It would not have to be nuclear..not yet anyway, and most certainly would not be preemptive. Preemptive is when you attack first, because you think the other side is planning to attack.

You can be sure that Putin has projected far enough ahead to be prepared for any contingency and if he thought it was in Russia's national interest to attack the West with both nuclear and conventional weapons, their silos would already be empty. The Russians have been busy developing *new* ICBMs, while we have retired our newest ICBM (MX-Peacekeeper) and have reduced the numbers of our Minuteman missiles.

The Russians are already attacking one of our friends. A few B-2s loaded with JDAMS would make a mess of the Lines of Communications of those Russian forces, especially the approaches to that tunnel. A few bunker busters on the tunnel itself would also be useful.

How can anyone be sure that a direct attack upon Russian positions with B-2 & JDAMs would not provoke an equivalent or greater response?

We would stand a better than even chance of climbing up Herman Kahn's ladder of escalation at least one or two rungs at a time, as I see it.
441 posted on 08/11/2008 9:56:49 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup
if for any reason, the United States decided to launch an invasion of New Brunswick,...The geographical parallel is right in front of us with Russia moving on Georgia.

Well not quite. There aren't insignificant mountains, with very few passes, between Maine and New Brunswick. Makes a difference on one's options. The other front has to go through one heck of a gorge.

442 posted on 08/11/2008 9:58:54 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mnehrling
Cheney would take Putin hunting.

Close, he would GO Putin hunting.

443 posted on 08/11/2008 10:00:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Well not quite. There aren't insignificant mountains, with very few passes, between Maine and New Brunswick. Makes a difference on one's options. The other front has to go through one heck of a gorge.

Yeah, but there IS Canadian Customs, almost as bad.
444 posted on 08/11/2008 10:06:14 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: nikos1121
Geogia attacked South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

The Georgian only attacked the South Ossetian separatists, after the latter attacked them. The Abkanzhians attacked the Georgians, and then the Russians came in through there. Or at least it was supposedly the Abkanzhians, could have been Russians, who could tell?

445 posted on 08/11/2008 10:06:23 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Repeal The 17th
p.s. my survival supplies and my bug-out-bag and my escape plan are ALWAYS at the ready ... I was raised to rely on NO man NOR government for the safety and security of myself or my family.

YOU my FRiend, are a wise man.
446 posted on 08/11/2008 10:11:38 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup
Jeff my FRiend? It is no longer 'early'.

It's not early for Georgia, but it is for the Ukraine, for Poland, and for the other nations Ronald Reagan helped free from Soviet tyranny, along with a few other countries that stand in the way of Putin's plans.

447 posted on 08/11/2008 10:14:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SolidWood

448 posted on 08/11/2008 10:15:30 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: nikos1121

Nikos, we don’t put five carriers in a small radius. It’s suicidal. As for this situation, I have advocated all day that we do something more than talk.

I am still trying to figure out if that was the right thing to advocate. I may be as wrong as I can be.

I think you mentioned earlier, we should do something. Well, I think so too, but I’m not totally convinced of it.

Thank you for the comments.


449 posted on 08/11/2008 10:21:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: MarMema
I don’t know. The home of the former US ambassador in Georgia is lovely. And up fairly high. I had not been to the embassy itself.

Sorry, I was being a bit sarcastic. That photo is from the evacuation of the US Embassy in Saigon, Republic of Vietnam, a country which no longer exists. Thanks to the US not backing up it's friends as it promised it would. It was 1975, perhaps before your time?

450 posted on 08/11/2008 10:22:21 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
insignificant mountains

oops.

*significant* mountains

451 posted on 08/11/2008 10:25:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SolidWood

Did Leonidas and the 300 pose for a group photo?

I must have missed that.


452 posted on 08/11/2008 10:40:26 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve; kristinn; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; potlatch; lizol; ntnychik; gonzo; LucyT
And he must not tell us how he looked in Putin's eyes and saw his soul--

- - - - - - - - - -

If he took a good LONG look, he'd see Pootie-Poot is soul-less, KGB ...

453 posted on 08/11/2008 10:50:21 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: rahbert

I’m speaking about screens from the “300” flick. Sheesh. :o)


454 posted on 08/11/2008 11:23:59 PM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Thanks!


455 posted on 08/11/2008 11:25:03 PM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: MarMema

Thank you for the insight from that area.

Please convey to the good people of Georgia, that our prayers and hearts are with them.


456 posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:10 PM PDT by suzy02
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To: Jeff Head
I have faith that there are ways to defeat this tyrant..and with God's grace, we will find that way.

Thank you for your inspiration and hope.

457 posted on 08/11/2008 11:50:09 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: suzy02

Thank you so much. I have sent them many emails this afternoon but heard nothing since this morning.


458 posted on 08/11/2008 11:56:47 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Georgian president got himself into this mess probably with inside provocation from Russian.

I think now is the time for the USA to watch and react accordingly.

I think this will make it easier for our response, when and if the Russians decide to put strategic bombers in Cuba.

Any president will tell these guys that these get them the hell out of the there or the US will blow them up.


459 posted on 08/12/2008 1:26:35 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: nikos1121

Thank you Nikos. Good points.


460 posted on 08/12/2008 9:59:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 3, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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