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Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant

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To: conservativegramma
So in effect, you can be born in the U.S. to muslem parents, be taken out of the country say at 2 days of age, raised in Saudi Arabia to Wahabbists, then come back into the U.S. and run for President as a 'natural born' citizen with the intent to take this country down. And that's just ONE example!

Technically, yes (assuming that such candidate met the 14(?) year residency requirement). Real-world, though, such a person would have a very difficult time getting elected for the very reasons you raised- people would be nervous about electing someone who spent so long living outside of the country. But that's a political, not legal, issue.

281 posted on 08/05/2008 11:17:32 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Wil H
If all that is true he isn't fit for public service as dog catcher, so it doesn't matter where he was born or what his religion is/was.

Even if all this isn't true, I think it's pretty clear that Obama is not qualified to be dog catcher.

282 posted on 08/05/2008 11:19:57 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: autumnraine
But can a dual citizen get the security clearance for that position? I don’t think the DoD would allow it. They don’t even allow passports holders of other nations to have that clearance of lower level clearance.

The President is not actually given a security clearance. As the head of the Executive Branch, and by virtue of winning the election, he is entitled to access all classified documents and information. He's the boss, essentially, so there is simply no way to deny him access to any secrets he wants to see.

283 posted on 08/05/2008 11:22:40 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: calex59

John McCain produced a fake COLB?


284 posted on 08/05/2008 11:24:44 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pissant

Questions of background, experience and ideology
are for mere American mortals.
Let the coronation of the messianic n0ob begin.


285 posted on 08/05/2008 11:32:25 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: MeekOneGOP; LucyT; pissant; AmericaUnited; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; Fred Nerks; ...

286 posted on 08/05/2008 11:34:08 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: autumnraine

Zia was after my time, though my dad knew him as he (Dad) was the Assistant Air Attache to the US Embassy - actually, back in those days we and everybody else called it the American Embassy. Don’t get me started...


287 posted on 08/05/2008 11:42:37 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: longtermmemmory

One cannot stop dual citizenship conferred automatically from another country. Otherwise, France could have offered Bush a citizenship in 2006 and he would have had to step down.

Only applying for citizenship elsewhere affects a person’s U.S. citizenship.


288 posted on 08/05/2008 11:43:06 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: fieldmarshaldj
It’d be interesting to see this argued before the Supremes. It still seems like a big grey area and very subjective.

The Supremes are bound to follow the law, and there is no grey area in this case. The statutes in force at the time of Obama's birth are clear - he would not qualify as a 'natural born' citizen if born in Indonesia and fathered by a citizen of Indonesia due to his mother's age, therefore he would not be eligible to be POTUS.

It would raise many problems if young female American citizens had citizenship questions about children born either in or out of wedlock, fathered by foreign nationals, at least leaving them in limbo.

Such children are not 'in limbo.' They are US citizens, just not 'natural born' US citizens, so are therefore unqualified to be POTUS.

It seems common-sense here.

Yes, it is common-sense.

If the mother is an American citizen, unless she has renounced her citizenship, it shouldn’t matter where the child is born, as the child would still be considered a citizen of the U.S. (and hence, qualified to run for President).

Wrong...the father must also be a US citizen, since the mother had not lived in the US for at least 5 years after attaining the age of 16. READ THE STATUTE!

289 posted on 08/05/2008 11:45:19 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: Red in Blue PA

http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

Not quite as low res as it appears on the web page.


290 posted on 08/05/2008 11:46:28 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
>>>You’d need a forged Maya Hawaii COLB in the first place wouldn’t you?

Fred Nerks found the answer to that. Apparently, Maya was born twice.

291 posted on 08/05/2008 11:49:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks, PhilDragoo.

Very good...a succinct graphic.


292 posted on 08/05/2008 12:04:34 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: Calpernia

Well, if damaging claims were made about McCain based on Ancestry.com or Wikipedia entries, I wouldn’t accept them, so I can’t accept them about Obama or Maya.

The info is certainly interesting, but that’s all so far.
Nothing good enough to actually be used, imo.


293 posted on 08/05/2008 12:07:17 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: pissant

Dr.Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng

294 posted on 08/05/2008 12:11:33 PM PDT by Mila
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To: Mila

Is she getting paid by the name.


295 posted on 08/05/2008 12:20:20 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: pissant

bttt


296 posted on 08/05/2008 12:24:36 PM PDT by amigatec (Once you go Mac, you never go back!!!)
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297 posted on 08/05/2008 12:30:00 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: pissant
Hillary has pulled the trigger and her nomination end game has been put into action. I am sure Super Delegates are now being lobbied to give the nomination to her. Bill gave the signal with his quip about anyone who is constitutionally eligible to run for president.

I find it interesting that TechDude had completed the analysis but instead of going public with the information immediately he played this little game with a trip to Vegas as the prize. Compare this scenario to what happened with the forged national guard memos. They were dissected in a matter of hours by an impromptu group of pajama warriors on FR and LGF.

Once the delegate count was out of Hillary's reach but before she gave her non-concession speech, I predicted Hillary would hit Obama with a one-two punch, two or three weeks before the convention. This gives enough time to lobby the SDs but not enough time for Obama to recover.

Obama's poll numbers have been slipping, raising anxiety in the DNC and MSM about the election. He should be way ahead right now. Now that the steps to identify the forgery have been revealed on the net by Hillary's operatives, right wing talk radio will pick up on it and eventually it will hit the MSM. The "credit" will be given to the right wing, even though the original source is a pro-Hillary website. Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. are so arrogant they will eagerly claim credit for taking the story mainstream. This is how Hillary intends to keep the black vote, by placing blame for Obama's downfall on the right.

If Obama starts to regain his footing, a roundhouse is waiting for him. The "Whitey" tape is my guess. That story was leaked to get the Obama and company on the record denying it happened. Clinton-lover Larry Johnson surfaced the story and then tried to pin blame for the rumor on Rush. If that tape is released now the damage will be ten-fold of that if it had been released while the rumors were still swirling. The story becomes about the lies, denials and coverup, and not his wife's racist comments which he might survive to get the nomination.

Obama, McCain, and right wing talk radio are about to be blindsided. It reminds me of the Joker in the latest Batman movie, toying with the criminals and cops, the mob and the public because he understands their proclivities. The Clintons are running the long con and exploiting the arrogance of everyone involved. Don't take your eyes off the Clintons, ever!

(It's either that or my tin foil hat is on too tight.)

298 posted on 08/05/2008 12:30:47 PM PDT by HundredDollars
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To: HundredDollars; Polarik

The sources for exposing the COLB forgery are Townhall.com (a freeper named Polarik)and Atlas Shrugs - right wingers. Texasdarlin (a hillary supporter) and Larry Johnson’s site (No Quarter - also a hillary supporter) have just been publicizing them because of the common interest in pancaking Obama.


299 posted on 08/05/2008 12:39:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Citizen Blade
“Trying the Hail-Mary approach of trying to prove he was born in Kenya or some such other nonsense just makes people look foolish.”

These are Hildibeast supporters. What did you expect? and why do you care if they look foolish? Let them look foolish if they want, and anyway, who knows, Obama wasn't the smartest guy running for president amongst a crowd of morons. They might be right about him. I wouldn't be at all suprised to learn he has been lying about his place of birth for years. Would it really surprise you?

300 posted on 08/05/2008 12:49:48 PM PDT by monday
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