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*Breaking* Obama Hides Indonesian Identity: Fake Birth Certificate Explained
Texas Darlin ^ | 7/31/08 | Texas Darlin

Posted on 07/31/2008 3:19:18 PM PDT by pissant

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To: ryan71
"Even if this is 100% true and he's not eligible, to boot Obama out on a technicality will be viewed by the world as “rigged”.

Nope, we're stuck with having to beat him in the election.

Why? If Hussain is disqualified, then Hillary will simply take the nomination. Frankly, I wonder if just exposing the lie and having it confirmed isn't enough, let Obama continue to run and beat him on election day, rather than clearing the road for the beast and having her win.

61 posted on 07/31/2008 4:07:52 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: pissant

How can they “virtually solve” something based on “hypothesized facts”?


62 posted on 07/31/2008 4:08:53 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: pissant

gave Duncan donations as long as he remained in the race..
but the MSM and GOP made like he did not exist..
when you look at heros like Curt Weldon,Tancredo, Duncan get taken out..you have to ask: Who is running the GOP?


63 posted on 07/31/2008 4:09:27 PM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: misanthrope

Cool list. Also, there’s “Osama with a B”.


64 posted on 07/31/2008 4:09:43 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: xkaydet65
It was a Indonesian PUBLIC school run by Catholic Nuns.

At the time all schools in Indonesia were controlled by the Government and only Indonesian citizens WITH THE PROPER PAPERS could go to them. Indonesia at the time was a dictatorship and lil Barack Obama could not attend those schools unless he was an Indonesian citizen and he had been adopted legally in Indonesia.

He was adopted at five or before he turned five by Lolo Soetoro and his mother gave up all legal rights to him because under Indonesia law only Muslim Fathers had right to their children.

Interestingly enough there is a methodf of reaffirming your US citizenship at the age of eighteen in cases like these of dual citizenship where one country Indonesia doesn't recognize dual citizenship with other countries like the United States. If Barack Obama didn't reaffirm his US citizenship at eighteen it could be tantamount to losing it.

CHAPTER 3-LOSS OF NATIONALITY

349 LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN

SEC. 349. [8 U.S.C. 1481]

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if

(A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or

(B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or

(B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, United States Code, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, United States Code, or violating section 2384 of said title by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

(b) Whenever the loss of United States nationality is put in issue in any action or proceeding commenced on or after the enactment of this subsection under, or by virtue of, the provisions of this or any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred, to establish such claim by a preponderance of the evidence. Any person who commits or performs, or who has committed or performed, any act of expatriation under the provisions of this or any other Act shall be presumed to have done so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted upon a showing, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the act or acts committed or performed were not done voluntarily.

[SEC. 350 was repealed]

351 RESTRICTIONS ON LOSS OF NATIONALITY

SEC. 351. [8 U.S.C. 1483]

(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (6) and (7) of section 349(a) of this title, no national of the United States can lose United States nationality under this Act while within the United States or any of its outlying possessions, but loss of nationality shall result from the performance within the United States or any of its outlying possessions of any of the acts or the fulfillment of any of the conditions specified in this chapter if and when the national thereafter takes up a residence outside the United States and its outlying possessions.

(b) A national who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality, in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have lost United States nationality by the commission, prior to his eighteenth birthday, of any of the acts specified in paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 349(a) of this title.


65 posted on 07/31/2008 4:09:59 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: pissant
She has not left the station Yet!!!!........Photobucket
66 posted on 07/31/2008 4:10:37 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Veteran==Keep FR free donate today==NOBAMA==FairnessDoctrine on FR????)
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To: null and void
"Retroactively putting the adoptive dad's name on the kid's birth certificate is common practice. "

Doesn't that effectively change the meaning of 'father'? The father is whoever is the child's guardian, not who 'fathered' the child?

Sounds like a Socialist/Feminist/Liberal/activist thing.

[I'm not saying you shouldn't have or anything, just pointing out the social engineering aspect of this]

67 posted on 07/31/2008 4:12:46 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: They'reGone2000
I have firsthand knowledge of a sperm donor's name being removed and the adopting father's name being added to a birth certificate when a child was adopted at age 5. The resultant birth certificate (and any future passport applications, FBI checks etc.) consider the adopting father to be the child's "real" father. No "original" birth certificate (listing the sperm donor) is available from any governmental agency.

If that is so, then where did Obama get his fake birth certificate from?

Wouldn't the act of producing a fake certificate in itself disqualify him from running?

Wouldn't that act also carry with it criminal charges? Fraud, forgery, etc.

68 posted on 07/31/2008 4:12:59 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NativeNewYorker
and then a stub term by the VP...which makes his VP choice interesting.

Very, very interesting.

Veep Hillary!™ could be eligible for two full elected terms if she served a stub one day shorter than two years.

A solid decade of Hillary!™ as President and CIC...

69 posted on 07/31/2008 4:13:21 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: misanthrope

No “Borat Obammy?”
“I’d walk a thousand miles,
for one of his smiles,
O baaaaaaaaaamy!”


70 posted on 07/31/2008 4:15:06 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: shadowgovernment

A bunch of RINOs, apparently. Hasn’t been the same since Haley Barbour moved on to Mississippi.


71 posted on 07/31/2008 4:15:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Crystal Cove

It’s ‘virtual’! (the word seems to have two self-contradictory meanings - interesting, I think)


72 posted on 07/31/2008 4:15:33 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: null and void

One thing is certain, Obama’s family in Africa doesn’t know who Ann Dunham is. They all knew her as Anna Toot....


73 posted on 07/31/2008 4:16:50 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: null and void

Would you rather have the Clinton machine helping Obama or help push him over the cliff? I choose the latter. If Obama can return the favor as he goes down in flames, all the better.


74 posted on 07/31/2008 4:17:33 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I have one of those.


75 posted on 07/31/2008 4:18:19 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: the anti-liberal
"How much you want to bet Obambi will (if elected) get snugly with the UN and lay groundwork for just such? "

None, because that is a very real possibility, and it is just as much so if the beast, or any RAT gets in for that matter.

While it is a direct violation of the constitution they all swear to uphold when they take office, what's to stop them from amending the constitution once they do take office?

76 posted on 07/31/2008 4:19:04 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
All very good questions. Barack may have legally changed his name to Obama in later years, but his birth certificate would still say Barry Soetoro.

Changing one's name does not change the birth certificate. Leagal adoption DOES change the birth certificate.

77 posted on 07/31/2008 4:19:05 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: LiteKeeper
The Electoral College results are officially opened and presented for acceptance before a joint session of the House and Senate, after the new Members have been sworn in, but presided over by the outgoing Vice President. Remember when Al Gore, as the presiding Vice President, refused to accept motions presented that challenged the election of George Bush?

Dick Cheny will be in the chair when the results of this election are presented. Anyone could present a motion to reject the Electoral College votes for Obama on the grounds that he is ineligible to be elected President. If that Motion was accepted, Obama would be out as a possible President, then and there.

Congressman Billybob

Ninth in the ten-part series, "The Owner's Manual (Part 9) -- The Bill of Rights"

Latest article, "Three Tours de France"

78 posted on 07/31/2008 4:20:35 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I don’t think so but you are entitled to your opinion.


79 posted on 07/31/2008 4:21:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: the anti-liberal
I suppose. so. But, I am her father. The only one she has ever known.

BTW, I LOATH the term "social engineering".

Engineering is a collection of things that work.

"Social engineering" is a collection of things that fail.

80 posted on 07/31/2008 4:22:29 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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