"Not a Jew has had a hair disturbed." It's all "stinking lies!"
Quotes from Dr Goebbels, informing shocked foreign reporters the November 1938 day after the savage Nazi butchery of Kristallnacht against the Jewish citizens of Germany and Austria.
Posted on 07/27/2008 8:41:08 AM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
onatan Stern, the "Sgan Mefaked Hakita" (deputy squad commander) of Kitat Konenut New York, insists his "paramilitary emergency armed response team" is no "group of vigilantes or a JDL [Jewish Defense League]." Members of Kitat Konenut New...
Members of Kitat Konenut New York pose in a photo posted on the group's Facebook page. Photo: Courtesy Slideshow: Pictures of the week
"The goal of the organization is to have a competent and professional group of armed volunteers ready to respond to a threat at a moment's notice in any area where Jews reside," explains the Israeli combat veteran.
"We do not carry out demonstrations or political activity of any kind as we have no political agenda. Our agenda is to protect Jews wherever and whenever necessary and by any means needed."
On Friday, the third session of the group's training camp will begin in the Catskills woodlands of upstate New York, on land belonging to a Jewish supporter of the organization. With tuition at $400, the group expects 15 participants and five instructors for the 10 days of training. Participation has doubled since the group began three years ago.
Kitat Konenut New York is modeled on the rapid response teams in the West Bank settlements that are often the first to act when terrorist attacks or other emergencies take place. The group bills itself as religious-Zionist but nonpolitical.
American Jews have "felt a false sense of security in the United States," Stern believes, "because historically there has been less anti-Semitism than in other countries. But there have been incidents - neo-Nazi terrorist attacks, Arab terrorist attacks. Jews have to be vigilant."
"The threat is not from the American people or government," he adds, but from "terrorist sleeper cells that want to target Jews. These people are very dangerous and the FBI issues warnings against them very often," he said, citing the FBI's warning, after the killing of Hizbullah operations chief Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus in February, that the Lebanese group might carry out terror attacks on Jewish communities.
"The average American is friendly to Jews, but we're worried about those individuals on the periphery of society," Stern says.
The group was founded in the summer of 2006 in response to the shooting attack at the Jewish federation of Seattle premises by local Muslim Naveed Haq.
"We realized there is a need for this kind of organization, and as Israeli combat veterans living in the US, we have the skills and ability to respond to this," Stern says.
The group's MySpace page details the camp's regimen, which includes training in the IDF's Krav Maga martial art, use of non-lethal weapons and identification of suspicious objects, but also sharpshooter and assault rifle training, infantry exercises and endurance marches. Explanatory literature lists a large number of weapons with which participants can expect to train.
"We believe all Jews in the US must be legally armed and trained," Stern says, "and towards this goal we hold paramilitary training camps to train and equip Jewish American youth."
The group's literature notes emphatically that all firearms used in training "are 100% legal and in compliance with all federal, state and local laws."
"We strongly believe in the constitutional right to bear arms and we express this right to its fullest," it adds.
The group claims to be "well-connected with the New York police and fire departments" and it invites "all members of the law enforcement community to join in our life-saving activities."
Stern says, "We are all legally armed and carry radios and cellphones" during all hours of the day, and even on Shabbat, "as we need to be constantly ready to respond to any incident."
The camp literature also promises discussions on Torah and Halacha, understanding and confronting terrorism, fighting anti-Semitism, the history of the Zionist movement in the Land of Israel, and encouraging participants to "know your rights and learn how every American can and must be legally armed and how to express the Second Amendment" - the right to bear arms.
Funded by tuition money and a handful of private donors, the group does not exclude secular Jews, Stern says, but asks that they respect the Orthodox nature of the camp by observing Shabbat in public and refraining from bringing non-kosher food.
"We wouldn't have a problem with non-Jews coming either," says Stern, "but no non-Jew has applied thus far."
I hope it doesn’t come to that, but be ready. Some idiots on FR have already accused me of being reactionary, to say the least.
All this in the face of race-baiting losers like Al Sharpless instigating riots.
Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.
“Crown Heights riot ring a bell?”
No joke.
The Koreans did this in LA, btw. I don’t seem people bitching about them.
Let’s fact it: blacks in NYC and other areas and muslims in and around Detroit are a half-a excuse (like the Obamination losing the election “’cause of the Jewzzzz”) from going on a rampage and killing every Jew they can find.
The simmering anti-semites Pat Buchanon (and some posters here) no doubt would cheer them on.
It’s unfortunate, but every Jewish household and every congregation needs a back up plan, fall-back location, money, documents, and weapons.
Crappy way to live.
Christians are next, by the way.
That's not true. Kahane was a capitalist. He wanted to free Israel from its socialism. As for lawless terrorist like Hitler, he was a religious orthodox Rabbi and was against murder in any form. Many liberals Jews found him repugnant because he always preached that Israel belonged only to the Jewish nation and not to any Arabs.
That is a radicalism to some, but it is not Nazi-ism. He was not a "national socialist". He did not preach ethnic purity at all.
You are living proof that Jews indeed have much to fear in this country.
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I like flamethrowers... it's the smell of burning napalm.
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"Not a Jew has had a hair disturbed." It's all "stinking lies!"
Quotes from Dr Goebbels, informing shocked foreign reporters the November 1938 day after the savage Nazi butchery of Kristallnacht against the Jewish citizens of Germany and Austria.
Mrs. MWT is afraid that would damage the drapes.
We opted for shotguns and a variety of handguns.
I can shoot a shotgun drunk (lots of bird hunting), so even if they come for us at Purim, we’re set . . .
What's the problem with former IDF soldiers training Americans in the use of firearms and martial arts? They are also educating a group (American Jews) which is typically liberal and terrified and ignorant about guns and the 2nd Amendment. Nothing could be more conservative than that.
Do you just want Jews to be lemmings and lay down and die when black savages or madmen diaperheads attack their houses of worship, homes, and businesses?
I am preparing a thread and website for that very event.
“I brought up Rabbi Kahane’s murder not as the assasination of a great man, but as an incidence of terrorism in the US”
You have absolutely no appreciation for the major power struggles of the 20th century - none at all.
What was Rabin’s assassination?
Huh??? Was that terrorism too? Do we need IDF paramilitary in NY to stop that too?
Was that terrorism also at the hand of Kahane’s cowardly thugs?
Kahne was a small time thug who was rubbed out by another thug.
Hooboy, there are alot of bigmouths here who wont be chirping so loud when they realize that the US does not need a beachhead in the Meditteranean anymore to secure ME oil.
Wow, and all this time I thought NYC was located in New York USA and not Nazi Germany.
“But what do you do when the government is literally in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood”
Where? In Afghanistan? Iraq? GitMo?
What are you talking about? NY is the Jews best friend. Whats with this paramilitary nonsense.
NY state and NY city have a hard time prosecuting even child molesting Jews ever since Israel cancelled its extradition treaty in the 70’s.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22fled+to+israel%22+New+York&start=10&sa=N
Get real.
The same problem that would be had with former Venezualen soldiers coming here and training Venezualan immigrants.
What was Rabin’s assassination?
For Yigal Amir it was a self-destructive action both personally and politically. But he was not a stable individual.
For the Israeli General Security Services it was a disaster. One of thier operations to went out of control and led to the death of the Prime Minister.
For the left, it took a controversial man, and made him a martyr. It also discredited opposition to Oslo for 7 years.
Huh??? Was that terrorism too? Do we need IDF paramilitary in NY to stop that too?
You are being obtuse. Rabin had security.
The problem in the US is taht the FBI and CIA work with the Muslim Brotherhood through CAIRA, and AADC. Imagine if the FBI worked with the German American Bund after Peal Harbor, instead of arresting them.
Was that terrorism also at the hand of Kahane’s cowardly thugs?
Kahne was a small time thug who was rubbed out by another thug.
Again, you don't care for the facts, so you ignore them. El Sayed Nossair was a member of the same cell which bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 and later tried to set off a series of bombs. Members of this group were also associated with what would become Al Qaeda. So, yes it was terrorism.
Hooboy, there are alot of bigmouths here who wont be chirping so loud when they realize that the US does not need a beachhead in the Meditteranean anymore to secure ME oil.
So you don't like Israel, therefore there is no such thing as Islamic terrorism against Jews in America.
Good logic.
Like I said, not only is NY the Jews best friend, it is a haven for criminals like child molesters to evade prosecution by fleeing to Israel.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22fled+to+israel%22+New+York&start=10&sa=N
PS Still not explanation from the IsraelFirst crowd as to way these Jewish Army lead paramilitary units will protect only Jews.
Will they be targeting American non Jews?
I don't support Israel's decision to end extradition. It is pernicious. However it is also a red herring here.
” So, do they hold all Jews responsible for Lazar Kaganovich executing Stalin’s orders?”
No.
And since we have acknowledged and studied this 1930’s war that killed more than WWI, I can offer insights that you will find no where else.
The Kremlin has been morally bankrupt for some time - going back to the Tsars.
“One kopec, one life” is a good quote from the place that first banished Jews to “beyond the pale”.
The Bolshevics - many if not most of whom were of Jewish background - merely expanded on this moral depravity with their new godless religion. The Tsars built St Petersburg on a swamp and it said that as many serfs died as were pilings. Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin expanded on this and so if hundreds of thousands were killed pre revolution, the bar was raised to over a million in the 20’s, over 10 million in the 30’s, and over 50 million in post war.
Same Kremlin - same genocide and it now continues in the middle east with the Kremlin being the agent to new clients.
PS - Hitler and the Nazis did not sprout up like antisemetic mushrooms one day. As the opposing bolshevics were as genocidal as the tsars, so were the nazis a reaction to the bolshevics.
Few people know that Hitlers rise to dictatorial power was in one to one relation to the number of Amish, Mennonite and other fundamentalist German colonists who were being killed by the Bolshevics - and these deaths peaked the very weeks that Hitler gathered a critical 30 or 40% support to worm his way into dictatorship.
Why did the people rush to Hitler? It was because thousands of letters from the German genocide victims in the 20’s and 30’s made their way west to relatives.
http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/nd_sd/vossler2.html
Imagine what could have been avoided if Roosevelt ignored Duranty and listened to Malcolm Muggeridge. (But then his son Eliot would not have made a fortune selling warplanes to the Bolshevics).
“The Koreans did this in LA, btw. I don’t seem people bitching about them.”
These Koreans were not vigilantes who hunted down anyone harming Koreans.
They were property owners guarding their property during a riot and they sure as hell didnt need foreign troops coming here to show them how to bear arms.
There is still NO explanation why we need a standing army of IDF led paramilitary units to “protect” Jews in NY state.
“So you don’t like Israel, therefore there is no such thing as Islamic terrorism against Jews in America.
Good logic. “
Excuse me - We lost more Americans of all races on 9/11 than Pearl Harbor. There were far more Non Jews than Jews.
And that death toll continues in the Middle East where we continue to lose far more non Jews than Jews.
How dare you insinuate that Jews in NY deserve better protection than the rest of the population.
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