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Name your ism: Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Obamaism, etc
July 26, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/26/2008 3:29:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

From the dictionary:

Marxism

1. The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle plays a central role in understanding society's allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism to a socialist and ultimately classless society.

Communism

1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members. Communism

2. a) A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people. b) The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.

Socialism

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

Capitalism

1. An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

Freedom

1. The condition of being free of restraints.

2. Liberty of the person from slavery, detention, or oppression.

3. a) Political independence. b) Exemption from the arbitrary exercise of authority in the performance of a specific action; civil liberty: freedom of assembly.

Liberty

1. a) The condition of being free from restriction or control. b) The right and power to act, believe, or express oneself in a manner of one's own choosing. c) The condition of being physically and legally free from confinement, servitude, or forced labor. See synonyms at freedom.

2. Freedom from unjust or undue governmental control.

3. A right or immunity to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the liberties protected by the Bill of Rights.

Republic

1. a) A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president. b) A nation that has such a political order.

2. a) A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them. b) A nation that has such a political order.

Constitution of the United States of America

Fundamental law of the U.S. federal system of government and a landmark document of the Western world. It is the oldest written national constitution in operation, completed in 1787 at the Constitutional Convention of 55 delegates who met in Philadelphia, ostensibly to amend the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution was ratified in June 1788, but because ratification in many states was contingent on the promised addition of a Bill of Rights, Congress proposed 12 amendments in September 1789; 10 were ratified by the states, and their adoption was certified on Dec. 15, 1791. The framers were especially concerned with limiting the power of the government and securing the liberty of citizens. The Constitution's separation of the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government, the checks and balances of each branch against the other, and the explicit guarantees of individual liberty were all designed to strike a balance between authority and liberty. Article I vests all legislative powers in the Congress — the House of Representatives and the Senate. Article II vests executive power in the president. Article III places judicial power in the hands of the courts. Article IV deals, in part, with relations among the states and with the privileges of the citizens, Article V with amendment procedure, and Article VI with public debts and the supremacy of the Constitution. Article VII stipulates that the Constitution would become operational after being ratified by nine states. The 10th Amendment limits the national government's powers to those expressly listed in the Constitution; the states, unless otherwise restricted, possess all the remaining (or "residual") powers of government. Amendments to the Constitution may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress or by a convention called by Congress on the application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states. (All subsequent amendments have been initiated by Congress.) Amendments proposed by Congress must be ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures or by conventions in as many states. Twenty-seven amendments have been added to the Constitution since 1789. In addition to the Bill of Rights, these include the 13th (1865), abolishing slavery; the 14th (1868), requiring due process and equal protection under the law; the 15th (1870), guaranteeing the right to vote regardless of race; the 17th (1913), providing for the direct election of U.S. senators; the 19th (1920), instituting women's suffrage, and the 22nd (1951), limiting the presidency to two terms.

Obamaism (see also abomination)

A belief that the Constitution of the United States of America is obsolete, that capitalism exploits and oppresses the ignorant masses, that government knows better than the people on how to conduct their private affairs, that centralized government planning and control of the economy is superior to free markets, that free republics are evil and racist, that self-defense, national defense, national security are the tools of hateful war mongers, that nations should erase their borders, destroy their means of national defense, dissolve their constitutions and submit to control by world governments, that the ideas of freedom, free nations, free people, liberty, capitalism, etc, are failures that should be replaced by world government control, socialism, Marxism, etc. Can't we all just get along?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: elections; marines; obama
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To: cruise_missile

You ought to post a warning, first.

Some Freepers have heart trouble.


41 posted on 07/26/2008 4:27:17 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: indcons

With the traitorous globalists’ death grip on the MSM

sometimes, they are right.

as long as one doesn’t criticize the regime in power.


42 posted on 07/26/2008 4:28:15 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: budwiesest
I wish McCain took a Margaret Thatcher clone as his running mate. Condi Rice would be a second option. She's a two-fer and authentically black. It would be wonderful if the first female vice-president was a Republican. It would pull the rug right out under Obama.
43 posted on 07/26/2008 4:33:21 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

THANKS FOR YOUR KIND AFFIRMATION.

God’s best to you and yours.


44 posted on 07/26/2008 4:36:36 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Reeses

I agree.

However, Condi seems to be about as much subject to the puppet master’s slightest string twitches as

McChurian does.

Maybe that’s the best we can hope for this close to . . . the global government.


45 posted on 07/26/2008 4:38:12 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Jim Robinson

RINOism = Obamaism Lite...with less guilt!


46 posted on 07/26/2008 4:39:36 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

and the hate McCain spammers will make an Obama win possible.


47 posted on 07/26/2008 4:42:44 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: budwiesest

I’m not convinced the Democrats hate the Clintons. They’re not very popular with us. That’s for sure. There was this love affair that developed for Obama. Hillary has always been an abrasive witch, but she nearly pulled it out anyway. Obama was loved a bit more than she was, but it was quite close.

The racial ceiling in major cities and then governorships weren’t led by females unless I’m forgetting some things. I think the presidency will work along the same lines.

I would probably vote for J.C. Watts without much trouble. I would probably vote for a Jean Kirkpatrick type without too much trouble. I think Jean was a bit more of a Democrat than I’d be comfortable with, but her international relations performance during her tenure was pretty good.

I don’t want to see either ceiling broken for the sake of breaking it. I’m sure you agree with that. When a capable individual comes along, they’ll be voted in. I won’t mind as long as they have a firm grip on Conservatism.

I don’t think Obama has a firm grip on much of anything.

You may be right, Obama may be doomed. If he loses now, it will be because it becomes apparent how weak a figure he is. If he can keep up the orations, avoid debates and avoid making mistakes, he may not lose. The Democrats are desperate to get the White House back.


48 posted on 07/26/2008 4:46:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Should have read, “...racial/gender ceilings...” SAT


49 posted on 07/26/2008 4:47:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: SoCalPol; Jim Robinson; calcowgirl; AmericanInTokyo; indylindy
and the hate McCain spammers will make an Obama win possible.

Be careful that in your zeal to eliminate the enemy you do see, you completely overlook the enemy in your own camp. It would be a very real tragedy if Socialism came, not under the banner of liberalism and the Democratic Party, but under the guise of "conservatism" and under the banner of the Republican Party.

50 posted on 07/26/2008 4:47:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Quix
They are all evil to the core,

You are correct precisely because none of these 'isms' put individuals at the core- the "village, community", etc., but never the individual. Our Founders did it! They saw the flaw in mankind and his inability to live with rules that supercede society such that each individual's life would be livable to it's fullest.

A free people will trust their neighbor with freedom. Why the heck must we have our lives so regulated that we no longer trust our neighbor, ourselves, or even our children?

If God is in each person, then each person deserves some respect. I think that is ultimately what our Founders tried to incorporate. Doing otherwise defeats whatever plan He might have had in mind for the people living on this planet. When people are thought of as less-than-dirt you witness the tragedies so commonplace in our news. Nationally and locally. This lack of devoutness toward the individual will haunt us unendingly.

51 posted on 07/26/2008 4:48:40 PM PDT by budwiesest (Tribes are cool, but individualism is the rule.)
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To: Jim Robinson
So many reasons, so hard to choose.




52 posted on 07/26/2008 4:49:45 PM PDT by Lady Jag ( I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: budwiesest

I love your very wise words and points.

THANKS MUCH


53 posted on 07/26/2008 4:52:24 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Jim Robinson
Of course, you are 100% correct in these analyses.

As you know, my dislike for the policies and eventual cabinet lineup of a President McCain still does not get Obama off the hook for me, because Obama would be every bit as bad, only bringing disaster to us perhaps on a faster pace.

We have such poor choices this year.

I am thinking outside of the box. For me this year, both O(b)sama and McAmnesty are both squarely IN the box.

54 posted on 07/26/2008 4:54:30 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If McCain Stays RINO After You Vote For Him You Were: A) A Fool; or B) No Conservative To Begin With)
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To: Gabz
You forgot “nanny statism” something that is alive and well on FR.

Odd post and odd definition. Nor one that I could agree with.

55 posted on 07/26/2008 4:54:48 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: SoCalPol

Only McCain can generate that outcome. In the end, it is his to lose. And lose it he will, IMHO, by a considerable margin.


56 posted on 07/26/2008 4:55:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If McCain Stays RINO After You Vote For Him You Were: A) A Fool; or B) No Conservative To Begin With)
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To: rabscuttle385
As I said before, (and you LOL'd), this is akin to a man getting into a cage with a jaguar, because he is afraid of an approaching panther.
57 posted on 07/26/2008 4:56:50 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If McCain Stays RINO After You Vote For Him You Were: A) A Fool; or B) No Conservative To Begin With)
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To: Lady Jag
These are very good.

I would not vote for Obama in a million years.

I think a good similar graphic could be created for McCain and all the headaches, not the least being massive AMNESTY, that he, too would bring.

Good points. You are half the way there.

58 posted on 07/26/2008 4:58:41 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If McCain Stays RINO After You Vote For Him You Were: A) A Fool; or B) No Conservative To Begin With)
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To: rabscuttle385

It is about winning the war we are in and McCain has been in the lead pushing for the surge which has been working.

Obama has the Marxist history along with his friends and large per cent of his supporters.

Since you say your aren’t voting for McCain or Obama that leaves the ACLU, amnesty,anti war third party folks.
Just another flavor of Obama’s views.


59 posted on 07/26/2008 5:00:31 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Roberto Barr is for amnesty and Carlos Baldwin is a truther and views echo Michael Moore.


60 posted on 07/26/2008 5:03:39 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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