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Newhallville Beating A Wake-Up Call (Thief crashes bike into van, driver beaten by thief's friends)
New Haven Independent ^ | 24 July 08 | Paul Bass

Posted on 07/26/2008 9:49:37 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: LRS
Sorry, folks, but this article just hit a nerve.

And to read the comments from this town's mayor? What an idiot! He's talking about kids who are "disconnected" and exhibiting "unacceptable" behavior. Um, these "kids" are violent, predatory criminals and need to be in prison.

21 posted on 07/26/2008 10:34:06 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

The net result of the Obama presidency will be the assignment of each and every urban black to a white person and possibly certain uncle toms. His upkeep, medical plan and job less pay allowances will be come your priviledge and responsibility.

Obama is their Messiah who will lift them up out of their miserable existance. he will put down the man

Unlike a slave that might be productive and a benefit, your black will be a drag on your being.


22 posted on 07/26/2008 10:34:37 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: LRS

Another article quoted the boy’s father as saying something like they were justified in the attack because the driver tried to flee. We now know he is a liar too because others said this was not true. If they guy had fled, I would hardly have blamed him because perhaps he knew what fate awaited him.
Still, he did the right thing.

If he was white I suppose word will get out and make its way to the blogosphere. But I would not assume he was. There have been cases where black motorists were assaulted by other blacks in neighborhoods like this. I think it was in FL a few years ago where a guy’s car hit a kid and he was dragged out and beaten to death. All involved were black.

The neighbor complains he was outside (breaking the law by carelessly riding the bike) because he had nothing else to do. Well I guess that means we need more “programs!” All Bush’s fault ultimately. We’ve been hearing for decades that more government programs are needed. How did we who were raised as recently as the 1970s manage to grow up and stay out of trouble without “programs?!”


23 posted on 07/26/2008 10:38:46 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Drew68
at a hard-care group of 200-300 young people in the city appear to be beyond the reach of social programs, that everyone from government to families needs to work together to engage them.

This statement, in spite of the derision in some of the posts here is just about the most honest state thing I’ve heard a liberal politician say in a very long time.

The responsibility of parents is to indoctrinate, mould, and teach children to fit into their particular society. Societies may be different from one to another, but the job of parent never does. In general the overall variations on acceptable behavior will fit close enough. If not, then the very act of being ‘trained’ in one acceptable lifestyle is allows temporary or permanent changes to fit into another.

These kids (And many, many thousand like them) have failed become part of our culture to the extent that they CAN NOT live within it. The behavior is so outside ‘Normal’ that no words or standard punishment will work, because they see nothing wrong in what they do, they have developed their own culture and defend it against us, the (in their view) outsiders. The mayor sees the problem, but I bet cash money he lacks the skills or will to propose the only viable solutions. That of course is to remove them from our society and attempt to retrain them and failing that to simply remove them. I doubt many here would have that will.

Cruel, hard, uncharitable, bastard. I admit to all. But I still I’m correct.

24 posted on 07/26/2008 10:43:54 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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honest state thing I’ve = honest statement I’ve

Poor editing.. ;)

25 posted on 07/26/2008 10:45:06 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: Drew68

What a simple but salient point you made.


26 posted on 07/26/2008 10:47:26 AM PDT by commonguymd (A de facto single party country is nigh. The partisan bickering is a mere bilking mechanism.)
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To: Drew68
Delegates to the 2012 Democrat Convention

The only disconnected people in New Haven are the Democrats that run the city. They'd rather see hoodlums stay "enagaged" than see their citizens safe in the streets.

27 posted on 07/26/2008 10:47:47 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: Drew68
“There’s a group of kids who are disconnected. That poses a challenge to us.”

But wait a moment, Isn't the socialization of Public Schooling supposed to prevent all this kind of stuff?

28 posted on 07/26/2008 10:52:25 AM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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“They develop their own set of values” and are “disconnected from family” and society.”

Weasel words. We just can't come out and say what things really are.

29 posted on 07/26/2008 11:06:46 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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“In New Haven they’re called democrats.”

A truer word never spoken. Used to work in NH in the late ‘60s. I well remember the Summer of 1967 when Blacks rioted for several days in NH. It was a mess then, and it only has gotten worse.

As for DeStefano, he is a left wing Democrat who wants NH to be an amnesty city.


30 posted on 07/26/2008 11:09:37 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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Cruel, hard, uncharitable, bastard. I admit to all. But I still I’m correct.

You have a point. I mean, we're not talking about a dozen or so ne'er-do-wells. We're talking about 200-300 young people! What percentage of the community is this? What percentage of young people as a whole in this community do 200-300 people represent? I'm betting quite a bit.

31 posted on 07/26/2008 11:15:01 AM PDT by Drew68
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Avoid African American neighborhoods in any major urban area. The basic rules of reason, justice, good and evil do not apply. It’s just too dangerous.


32 posted on 07/26/2008 11:19:37 AM PDT by Godwin1
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New Haven is a sanctuary city. DeStefano (democratic mayor of the most liberal stripe) is just another bleeding heart progressive who will only propose throwing more tax money at this gang of 300 disconnected youth. Believe me nothing wiil change. 5 years from now the 300 will have grown to 1,000, and DeStefano will still be mayor.

Newhallville is one of the most dangerous neighbor hoods in Connecticut. Newhallville is a foreboding area even during the daytime with low overhanging, untrimmed trees blocking out most of the sunlight, fire hydrants illegally opened, and the streets (mostly one-way) are impossible to negotiate because street and traffic signs are either missing or vandalized.

33 posted on 07/26/2008 11:34:57 AM PDT by meanman (A)
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To: CdMGuy

I spoke to the guy who was driving the National Guard truck that got lost in New Haven that started one of those riots then

He genuinely was looking for a pizza parlor when the crowd saw them and panicked!

The story was so funny


34 posted on 07/26/2008 12:29:56 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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Well I guess that means we need more “programs!” All Bush’s fault ultimately. We’ve been hearing for decades that more government programs are needed. How did we who were raised as recently as the 1970s manage to grow up and stay out of trouble without “programs?!”

I thought that Bill Clinton's Midnight Basketball was supposed to have cured all of this!

35 posted on 07/26/2008 12:52:08 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Drew68

““I say that not to characterize the kid as a bad kid,” DeStefano said. “There’s a group of kids who are disconnected. .””

In my day a kid who stole a motorbike was considered a bad kid. So “disconnected” is the new bad?


36 posted on 07/26/2008 2:50:47 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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“Some boys who identified themselves as Quinell ‘s friends insisted the van driver was at fault

He rearended the van! It wasn’t like the van hit him head on. This little thug gangster smashed into it.


37 posted on 07/26/2008 2:51:50 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Godwin1
Avoid African American neighborhoods in any major urban area. The basic rules of reason, justice, good and evil do not apply. It’s just too dangerous.

They've really turned into "no-go" zones. They weren't always like this. Of course, the mayor tries to minimize the reality of this neighborhood by talking of "only" 200-300 problem kids as though this is a small number of bad apples.

38 posted on 07/26/2008 3:02:53 PM PDT by Drew68
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He rearended the van! It wasn’t like the van hit him head on. This little thug gangster smashed into it.

How dare this van driver find himself in the way of a kid blowing through stop signs on a stolen motorbike! The nerve of him!

39 posted on 07/26/2008 3:04:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

These are not humans. These are feral, non-habilitated beings.


40 posted on 07/26/2008 3:11:01 PM PDT by Crawdad (I am my brother's keeper. I am not your brother's keeper.)
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