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To: fieldmarshaldj

Are you sure? I’m not keen on who’s who in that part of the world.

If so, then it’s like an “out of the frying pan and into the fire” kinda thing. You’d figure people in the UK would be fed up with their country’s Christian culture and traditions being erased and replaced with Islamic appeasement and the rapid erosion of their freedom of speech, not to mention loss of sovereignty and rule.


6 posted on 07/25/2008 12:51:18 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
From the UK: Yep this is frying pan into the fire stuff. The SNP are left of Labour..... and this will hasten the break up of the UK. As we used to say “ A pox on both their houses”
8 posted on 07/25/2008 12:59:41 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: Nathan Zachary; vimto

Although I’m 1/4th Scot and it’s almost genetic the feeling/yearning for “muh people” to be free from the English, I know full well the only people to benefit from Independence won’t be the Scottish... it’ll be the English. A prime example of “be careful what you wish for... you might get it.”


12 posted on 07/25/2008 1:13:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Nathan Zachary; fieldmarshaldj; vimto
You’d figure people in the UK would be fed up with their country’s Christian culture and traditions being erased and replaced with Islamic appeasement

Really? I understand why we would hope that were true. But what is it about the modern UK that makes you think that would be anywhere remotely the case?

It's not Dickensian Christmas over there anymore than it is here in America. We can't have bibles within 150 feet of a school or a courtroom...why do you think it has been better over there?

And "tired of" secularism doesn't really make sense.

Conservatism -is- tiredness. It is the opposite of activism, such as pointed out by Russell Kirk in "The Conservative Rout."

The least common denominator is the least amount of conflict within a society, and a "Christian culture" with huge airports and immigrant traffic by it's very tolerant nature will dissolve down into non-confrontational PC-isms allowing gay, muslim, secular activists to take the unopposed lead.

Where Great Brtain goes, we will soon be.

38 posted on 07/25/2008 6:29:49 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Nathan Zachary; fieldmarshaldj; vimto

Let me say it this way.

Losing conservatism is like losing virginity and youth by degrees.

Once it’s gone, it’s gone, baby!

There can be no “Conservative Revolution” through backlash. That is activism as shown in 1994’s “Contract with America” petering out into same-old-same-old government-centric progressivism and more spending.


39 posted on 07/25/2008 6:33:02 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Nathan Zachary; fieldmarshaldj

“...You’d figure people in the UK would be fed up with their country’s Christian culture and traditions being erased and replaced with Islamic appeasement..”

They may be fed up with it, but if the Christians DON’T run for office, if they DON’T show up to vote en masse, if they DON’T bloc-vote and support their candidates, if they LET themselves get infiltrated and undermined by liberal socialists, and if they just basically hide their heads in the sand while the country that THEY BUILT is subverted, well, what else do they expect?

Same here in this country. When good men run for office, they need to be supported, fought for, and defended.

Instead we let our people get run out - Tom Delay, John Ashcroft, John Bolton, Rick Santorum, etc.,

And we’re left with Pelosi and Reid...and OComma...


43 posted on 07/25/2008 11:52:01 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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