Posted on 07/15/2008 5:23:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Yes! That is in fact something worth hammering him on. That's recent (past 20 years), and probably represents his views a lot more closely than some childhood Muslim school.
Excellent point.
Voters have a right to know that all politicians lie.
And that the sun rises in the East, and sets in the West.
Yawn.
> Obama's muslim past will only continue to be exposed. Get used to it,...
Oh I'm used to it, I just think it's a silly waste of time to try to make it an election issue.
> ... it's not going away and there is nothing you can do about it. heh heh
It's a free country. Have a great time.
So if Alter fudged the truth about obama attending a moslem school—does that make it more or less likely that obama is fudging the truth on the birth certificate that he has presented in digital form.
So WHY
is Jonathan Alter lying about Obama said?
Rev Wright was a former muslim. B Hussein Obama's step father Lolo Sotero was a radical muslim. Obama recites the call to prayer in perfect dialect with ease.
All we're asking is for Obama to be honest about his muslim background, then let the voters decide.
He is a male born of a muslim father. The muslim world considers him one of their own. He wouldn’t be the first to gain some power and “discover” his true purpose.
We're not going to pay AP's extortion fees and we're not going to allow them to control free speech!
First of all your premise is wrong. Not all politicians lie. Second, Truth is the most important issue there is because if you can not trust what someone says then you can not believe in them to present reality. Why do you think every time the DBM reports something we aren't endlessly having to verify what they portray as fact?
Your statement and the context you present are so utterly ignorant it defies even discussing, but I think you need a good can of Whoopass opened up on your flawed reality. Or should that be subjective "relative?"
There, fixed it.
Does he lie, or does he think that when reality conflicts with his belief, the reality is defective?
As a former liberal, I am serious when I ask the question. Looking back on how I used to think, deviations from 'the vision' were bad and should rightly be corrected; there was no question of whether 'the vision' was attainable. More to the point, while 'the vision' as a whole was clearly a good thing, there was no question of whether the subset that would be attainable would be desirable without the subset that would not.
Obama may be an evil liar, but he could also be a deluded 'useful idiot'. Neither is what we should want in a leader, of course, though knowing Obama's true nature would be useful in trying to oppose him.
Barack HUSSEIN Obama in his sophomore year at Occidental College.
Kinda like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (born Fredrick Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr.) and Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.) changed their names when they became muslims.
newsflash, BHO has disavowed any relationship with his muslim self
end of story
newsflash - john mcain thinks people should be proud of our country without being presidential candidate’s wives - bad on mckain
Oh what tangled webs...
It is quite common that some Muslim kids are sent to an ordinary public school in the morning and a Koranic school in the afternoon or evening. And, no, at least at the time of Obama lived in Jakarta, the teachers would not require him to take Islamic religion class unless he or his parents declared that he was a Muslim. The Indonesian government recognized 5 religions (Islam, Protestantism, Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism), and if you’re adherent of other religion, they’d let you wait outside of the class during the Islamic religion class.
I would suggest that a real Christian with Obama's apparent oratory skills should welcome an opportunity to explain what Christianity means to him. Not trying to play "holier than thou", since Christianity is rightly humbling, but rather just offering some simple personal insights.
While having to interview dozens of people so as to prove to each of them that one is a Christian would get rather annoying, I would think that a public speech or two wouldn't be unreasonable.
Besides, I would suggest that it would in general be a good thing for politicians to acknowledge how they would expect their religious views to affect--or not affect--their policies. That would seem to be relevant information for a voter picking a candidate.
Too bad for Hussein that he went to a racist ‘church’ for 20 years. His church history includes 20 years of supporting a racist nonbeliever. His lack of spiritual discernment in this area speaks volumes. Which is why any type of 'Coming to Jesus' speech will ring hollow. But again, he lacks discernment and doesn't know he's blind.
Very good point. As a former liberal myself, there were orthodoxies that just were not to be questioned. Obama doesn't have much of an intellect and what there is isn't of a questioning sort.
I should have clarified: a real Christian should have welcomed such an opportunity. Obama has not. I draw certain inferences from that failure.
I was not trying to suggest that Obama should have given such a speech, because I don't think he has even the foggiest notion of what Christianity is supposed to mean.
Come on, name one other President, VP, SC Justice, US Senator and/or Representative on the National or State level who can recite the muslim call to prayer in English, let alone in arabic - with a first-rate accent...other than the Muslim leftist from People's Rep of Minnesota Keith Ellison or Obama?
Why do Leftists get so angry when you quote Mr and Mrs Obama’s own words when citing examples of their questionable past?
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