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Three lib/dem general officers conducting a study for a gay advocacy group. Yup...a real legitimate study there folks.

Unfortunately, that's NOT the way it's going to be spun.

(The funny part about it is that the logistics of housing homosexual and heterosexual enlisted personnel would be unmanageable and un-affordable...no matter what your opinion of gays is...all I can say is that I sure am glad that I'm retired and won't have to deal with this mess)

1 posted on 07/07/2008 8:16:53 PM PDT by markomalley
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The problem here is generals are far removed from the possible AIDS tainted blood that flys on the battlefield and infects straight patriots.


2 posted on 07/07/2008 8:20:59 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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My dissertation advisor, generally a man of the left, nonetheless liked to discomfit folks advocating allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military by asking “would you want to serve on a submarine with one?”

The awkward silence that usually followed adequately made the point of why allowing open homosexuals to serve in the military would be a problem for morale and unit cohesion.


3 posted on 07/07/2008 8:22:40 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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4 posted on 07/07/2008 8:23:47 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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Let them say whatever they will. Anyone with any common sense knows, whther it's heterosexual or gay, that you cannot have the Sergeant lvoing one of the squad members romantically. Or an officer doing the same or vice-versa.

Such relationships will impact decision making as emotions come into play with command decisions.

Such activity will not be lost on other members of the team, squad, platoon, company, etc. and will effect unit cohesion.

5 posted on 07/07/2008 8:24:39 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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“Rule One...”


7 posted on 07/07/2008 8:25:37 PM PDT by RichInOC ("...NO POOFTERS!")
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Supporters of the ban contend there is still no empirical evidence that allowing gays to serve openly won't hurt combat effectiveness.

Well then, perhaps they should just let active service members have a vote and then be done with it?

9 posted on 07/07/2008 8:29:37 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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It may not be a legit study, but I work with college students — so people of military age — and they are exceedingly unfazed by people’s sexual orientation, so I would tend to agree with the results of the study.


10 posted on 07/07/2008 8:30:21 PM PDT by cammie
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“Michael D. Palm was a gifted educator, musician, athlete, business person, and dear friend to all who knew him. Michael, a staunch supporter of civil rights in the gay community, died of complications from AIDS in Telluride in August 1998. Michael's values reflect those of the Center named in his honor - intellectual curiosity and service.”
12 posted on 07/07/2008 8:32:35 PM PDT by Ratblaster ( Obama's house, Rezko's yard)
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Its going to be a different camaraderie than the one I knew.


14 posted on 07/07/2008 8:35:18 PM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrNCO)Military)
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Study: Military Gays Don't Undermine Unit Cohesion

I suppose it depends on how you define "cohesion"...

17 posted on 07/07/2008 8:39:56 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Seriously, is freedom so complicated?)
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This is just the thin edge of the wedge. These so-called studies want to convince everyone things won’t change day one - but no one considers what will happen when they start having gay baracks, gay Army marriages, gay pride celebrations, gay days, etc... as part of the “new” Army.


20 posted on 07/07/2008 8:44:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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the existence of gays in the military is disruptive to units

I couldn’t agree more!


21 posted on 07/07/2008 8:47:11 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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Just in case you didn't know who the "center" was named for. I don't think anyone had an agenda with this so-called "study."

Michael D. Palm was a gifted educator, musician, athlete, business person, and dear friend to all who knew him. Michael, a staunch supporter of civil rights in the gay community, died of complications from AIDS in Telluride in August 1998. Michael's values reflect those of the Center named in his honor - intellectual curiosity and service.

25 posted on 07/07/2008 8:59:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Enviromentalists, including Algore's "scientists," should be forced to find jobs.)
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We have worldwide terrorism, $4 and going higher gas, and a very shaky economy, but somehow don’t ask, don’t tell is a major priority.


27 posted on 07/07/2008 9:01:33 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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End “Don’t ask, don’t tell” and watch the “sexual discrimination” and all kinds of other lawsuits start rolling in against the military. The four buffoons on this panel are obviously braindead and have no idea what would lie ahead for the military if their wishes, yes their wishes came true.


35 posted on 07/07/2008 9:19:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Enviromentalists, including Algore's "scientists," should be forced to find jobs.)
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Those brave men... of the Pink Beret.


37 posted on 07/07/2008 9:25:10 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.

Barry Goldwater

38 posted on 07/07/2008 9:29:32 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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Haven’t homosexuals been in the military forever?


40 posted on 07/07/2008 9:34:43 PM PDT by purpleraine
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"Evidence shows that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly is unlikely to pose any significant risk to morale, good order, discipline or cohesion," the officers states.

If evidence showed that allowing gays and lesbians to serve is likely to pose significant risk to morale, good order, discipline or cohesion, would they tell us?

41 posted on 07/07/2008 9:38:29 PM PDT by Libloather (July is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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There is no way a study that showed the opposite would ever have seen the light of day.

Common sense says that having a guy who gets a stiffy when he's in the shower with your will affect unit cohesion.
46 posted on 07/07/2008 9:52:30 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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