Astronomer dismisses talk of aliens visiting Earth from outer space

Telegraph.co.uk ^ | Friday, July 04, 2008

[wallace144]

Anyone fascinated by UFO sightings will be disappointed to learn that a leading expert has dismissed suggestions we have ever been visited by aliens from outer space. There may be life out there, apparently, but it is just too far to get to Earth by spaceship.

Following reported sightings of UFOs there has been renewed speculation that aliens may be watching us.

But Dr Christian Kaiser, of the University of Southampton, said it is unlikely any can have made it this far.

[Quix]

Not by a very very very long shot.

Have you studied it since 1962?

How many 10’s of thousands of pages of evidence have you read?

How many close relatives of yours worked around UFO’s on a daily basis?

[aruanan]

The exact opposite is 100% true.

Objectively, the choice to believe or not to believe is just a coin toss.

Actually, you're mistaking the means used to determine a choice at random for the choice itself and the reasons for the choice. There's a whole lot more that goes into setting up that scenario than the limitations imposed by the mechanics of the coin toss.

[Quix]

I believe the best explanation is in the materials from

HTTP:/WWW.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

The [reliable version] of the Book of Enoch and Genesis mention fallen angels/ watchers/ nephilium . . . I believe they are “ET’s.”

It remains to be ‘proven’ to some satisfactions whether or not that includes critters inhabiting other worlds more or less as we inhabit this one. Some insist no. Some think Maybe. Some say yes—both sorts of ET critters exist and are in cahoots with satan to set up the global government as part of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION.

Some convincing sources assert that the global government folks do about half the abductions now with our own fleets of UFO’s and ET’s the other half.

I have no doubt at all that the NWO folks have fleets of tangible ‘nuts and bolts’ craft [though there’s no nuts and bolts] at their disposal and that they will use them to help insure the global government’s powers and controls. Some folks, my relative include, insist that the ET’s taught us how to build some and we learned some from backwards engineering some crashed craft.

Abductions have been stopped cold by folks remembering some fleeting long ago Sunday School phrase and saying: “STOP IN THE NAME OF JESUS.”

[Quix]

Well put.

[BulletBobCo]

Doesn’t Kaiser know about the Tycho Treaty?

[RightWhale]

Dr Christian Kaiser, of the University of Southampton

One of seven billion opinions on this trivial topic.

[Psycho_Bunny]

Ya. Good luck with that.

[Psycho_Bunny]

Not really. For every One, someone holds the belief of the Other...for every "fact" there is a disproof.

The equation of choice becomes so complex as to render an objective decision impossible.

[Quix]

From:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350343/pg1

Royal Blue blood Knight of Malta and Honorary 33rd degree Freemason, America’s 40th President Ronald Reagan often talked about how the whole world would come together if there were an external alien threat to our planet. At the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 21st, 1987, Reagan said, “In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.” Speaking to a room full of reporters at the White House on May 5th, 1988, Reagan said, “I’ve often wondered what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer…a power from another planet. Wouldn’t we all of a sudden find that we didn’t have any differences between us at all, we were all human beings, citizens of the world and wouldn’t we come together to fight that particular threat?” He mentioned this idea many other times throughout his life.

Henry Kissinger at the Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991 is reported to have said, “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e. an ‘alien’ invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government

[Quix]

The ATS motto is

DENY IGNORANCE

not

DENY GOOD EVIDENCE

[STD]

I’m also here without permission. We should talk privately

[GingisK]

...but it is just too far to get to Earth by spaceship...

Unless, of course, there is something we don't know about physics.

[Psycho_Bunny]

Whatever, Fox.

[Quix]

Cruising for an interesting future educational experience?

LOL.

[Quix]

Attack of the fishman:

Most fascinating thread on ATS with pics of injuries to the human:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread369106/pg1

[Quix]

UFO PING LIST

Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off the list.

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MORE ATS GLEANINGS.

this first link is to a thread about a purported attack by a fishman . . . with pics of marks on the victim’s body and a related narrative by his wife. The story is quite fascinating and dramatic. He evidently nearly killed the fishman with a knife that broke off in the fishman. And then the wife and hubby were ‘put into a sleepy state’ and the apartment was sanitized in a manner quite fascinating as later recollected by the wife.

Anyway—the first page of the many paged thread is worth reading—certainly the OP is:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread369106/pg1

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread369161/pg1

thread began with This:

posted on 6/7/2008 @ 08:20 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

DIGG ATS

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more infoMy family in Up-State NY had a sighting last night (7/5/08)

Today is July 6. I live near Atlanta Georgia along with my mother and father. This morning around 9:30am my father called me and said I should call my grandfather who lives near Altamont NY (near Albany) because he saw a UFO last night along with two of my uncles who were all hanging out at one of my uncle’s house in Guilderland NY.

My grandfather had a close encounter with a UFO in 1971. He’s a straight shooter. He’s a member of the NRA, doesn’t drink, and he’s a judge. He’s the most non-BS type of guy I’ve ever met to this day. Here is the report I filled for him after gathering notes from him regarding his 1971 encounter which Peter Davenport let me file “for him” because my grandfather isn’t that good with computers:

www.nuforc.org...

I called my grandfather and he told me as much as he could. He said it was around 7:30pm last night (7/6). The sun was setting but the sky was still some what lite. One of my uncles Ron pointed out something in the sky. It was high in the sky just above the tall tree line. They said it was larger than a star, more like the size of Venus or another planet when you can see it in the sky. The only thing was this object was moving slowly upward and to the north. Then an object they described as a “rod” which was reddish-brown in color shot directly underneath the original bright glowing object at a very high rate of speed.

They then continued to watch the original object move slowly up higher and higher (sometimes stopped and hovered) before it was out of sight. My uncle Ron got some binoculars. He’s the only witness I have yet to speak with but I will shortly (sometime today when he returns my call).

My grandfather is a plane/helicopter expert. He’s been a pilot for several decades. He swears this was not a plane, nor a helicopter. I rarely hear my grandfather “giggle” but this sighting so spooked him that he giggled and said “what ever this was it was really weird Eric.”

I’m calling the Albany news channels to see if anyone else reported these objects. I will post more details as I get them.

Link in the post is to:

http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/062/S62307.html

THIS:

National UFO Reporting Center Sighting Report
Occurred : 11/17/1971 21:00 (Entered as : 9/16/72 21:00)
Reported: 3/23/2008 6:07:49 PM 18:07

Posted: 3/31/2008

Location: Knox, NY

Shape: Disk

Duration:1 minute

UFO hovers above and shines a bright beam of light down on me

I believe it was in the fall of 1972. I was a Sgt. on sheriff patrol in Knox NY at the time. It was around 8 or 9pm and it was dark out. I pulled over to the side of Route 146 to relieve myself. I was standing right next to my cop car and I heard a slight humming sound which I thought was my car radio. I started to turn to enter my cop car when all of a sudden a very bight intense beam of light shown down on me. It scared the heck out of me. I tried to look up but the light was so bright I could hardly make out the shape of the object. It was saucer shaped and from what I could estimate it was about 200-400 feet above me.

Then the intense beam of light turned off in a blink just like a flash light would and I could see the object shoot off at a very high rate of speed up out of sight. It made little or no noise and left faster than anything I have ever seen or could possibly imagine at the time or now for that matter.

I then got a call on my cop radio from one of my Deputy officers I was in charge of and he told me to come to a woman’s house who said she had seen a UFO a few minutes ago in Berne New York which was close to Knox. I told my Deputy that I thought I might have just seen what she saw and decided to go check it out. When I got to the woman’s house her dogs were acting very strange. They were crawling on their bellies with their tails between their legs and were trembling. I have never seen dogs act like that. She told me she had see a UFO hovering over her barns in the back yard and had seen them several times before that night.

After that I decided to contact the control tower at the Albany airport. I asked them if they had tracked anything out of the ordinary and they replied “no, but we’ve received several other phone calls from people saying they saw UFOs as well.” The events were published in the Albany newspaper (I believe it was the Albany Times Union) shortly there after.

I have not told many people about this except for my close family. I don’t want any media attention and anyone to bother me. I saw what I saw and I know it was something strange and out of the ordinary.

((NUFORC Note: Witness indicates that the date of the incident is approximate. We spoke with the son of the source of this report, and the son seemed quite sober-minded, and credible, in our opinion. The son works as an erstwhile UFO investigator. Date above has been amended. PD))

((ADDENDUM TO REPORT))

Mr. Davenport,

I need to make one correction to the report I filled with you regarding my Grandfather’s UFO sighting. He thought is was in the fall of 1972 but the correct date is November 8, 1971. Can you make this correction before you post it in your data base? It’s too good of a sighting to not have the correct date.

His name is ((name deleted)).

Thank you,

((name deleted))

((END ADDENDUM))

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I hope to post some more gleanings below as the evening progresses.

Blessings,

[KevinDavis]

Here is my thinking.. Why in heck would they travel billions of miles just to pick up some drunk and not land in Washington DC???

[GingisK]

Why in heck would they travel billions of miles just to pick up some drunk and not land in Washington DC???

A drunk out in the sticks, or a drunk in Washington D.C.? There is a chance that the one in the sticks would be honest.

If you read the lore, the US government is already in contact with "ET"; and, allows them to pick up some of the local folks as part of "the deal". Besides, how would the government prevent ET from messing around anyway?

[KevinDavis]

That is true. We don’t have the capability to stop them anyway..

[SunkenCiv]

Refuting Fermi: No Evidence for Extraterrestrial Life?
National Institute for Discovery Science | John B. Alexander, Ph.D
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