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Research Casts New Light On History Of North America
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| 7-1-2008
| Valparaiso University
Posted on 07/01/2008 10:26:26 AM PDT by blam
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:26:26 AM PDT
by
blam
To: SunkenCiv; Red Badger
GGG Ping.
Thanks to Red Badger for the article.
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:27:45 AM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
So does this make them “indians”?
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:29:09 AM PDT
by
swmobuffalo
("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
To: blam
When to stop laughing. America is the oldest continent and everyplace else was populated from here. America’s old stuff is twice as old as the Old World’s old stuff. Horses, camels, people, and turkeys.
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:30:59 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(I will veto each and every beer)
To: blam
Guess we could say Columbus was merely “reclaiming his homeland?”
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:37:34 AM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: swmobuffalo
No, it makes them (GASP!) Dead White Europeans!..............
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:42:42 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
To: RightWhale
The ancient Americans rode their camels and horses across the Bering land bridge.........sorta like SUV’s of the day.................
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:44:06 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
To: blam
Yet it also supports research showing that North American Clovis points a particular type of arrowhead that represents the oldest manmade object on the continent identically match arrowheads found in Europe and made by humans at approximately the same time. That's the part I like..............
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:45:46 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
To: blam
The first white Americans were descended from Big Foots , or Feet . They then traveled to Europe and Africa to sell cocaine and tobacco .
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posted on
07/01/2008 10:53:59 AM PDT
by
kbennkc
(For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
To: blam
So, when can my European-extraction family and I open our own tribal casino on our extra back lot?
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posted on
07/01/2008 11:01:20 AM PDT
by
Gritty
(Americans 100 years ago didn't have golf matches. They had shooting matches.- Dave Grossman)
To: Red Badger
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posted on
07/01/2008 11:03:27 AM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Now can I start a casino?
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posted on
07/01/2008 11:16:24 AM PDT
by
DManA
To: Red Badger; blam; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
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posted on
07/01/2008 12:08:33 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: blam
This is why “native Americans” hysterically demand to rebury without examination all human remains found. The evidence is now overwhelming that the first Americans were Europeans who sailed here first. The “native Americans” are descended from a much later immigration by foot over the bearing Sea land bridge. Once here they murdered to extinction the earlier settlers. Kind of puts a kink in the whole “native Americans victimized by Europeans” schtick.
To: pabianice
Vintage Skulls"The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas.
Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.
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posted on
07/01/2008 3:41:43 PM PDT
by
blam
To: swmobuffalo
So does this make them indians?
Well, no, since Columbus made a mistake when he thought he had reached the rich lands of India in 1492.
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posted on
09/23/2008 2:33:50 AM PDT
by
Cronos
("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
To: Red Badger
No, it makes them (GASP!) Dead White Europeans!..............
Not really as 10,000 years ago, the ice age was just about retreating and the races weren't as clearly defined as now. There were the Sub-saharan Bantu and Khoisan people and the Australoids (in Papua New Guinea,Melanesia, Australia) and the Eurasian peoples. The Eurasians weren't clearly defined into Mongoloid and Caucasian groups and there were no "white" groups -- well there still isn't a "white race" -- there are the Caucasians but that also includes Semites (Jews and Arabs) and Dravidians (Tamils) and Aryans (which includes Europeans, Russians, Iranis and Indians).
The entire relationships would have been very close at that time, considering that the world's population would have been about a million odd people or less.
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posted on
09/23/2008 2:38:19 AM PDT
by
Cronos
("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
To: Gritty
So, when can my European-extraction family and I open our own tribal casino on our extra back lot?
European tribes were still active until the 9th and 10th centuries (Germanics, DAcians, Slavics, MAgyar, Finno-Baltics, Vikings etc.) and they were only civilised about a millenium ago, thanks to Rome and it's daughter Byzantium.
If your ancestry is any of those above, then you are only about 500 to 600 years close to the tribal nature of native Americans when Europeans landed.
If your ancestry is southern European, i.e Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Greek, then your ancestry is responsible for the civilising of Europe and the Americas but you haven't been part of a "tribe" since circa 500 BC
Finally, even if you are of European extraction, you're most likely not descended from those first settlers who came from the east rather than the west into the Americas. The genes of those settlers would be in those descended from native americans
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posted on
09/23/2008 2:43:37 AM PDT
by
Cronos
("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
To: pabianice
This is why native Americans hysterically demand to rebury without examination all human remains found. The evidence is now overwhelming that the first Americans were Europeans who sailed here first. The native Americans are descended from a much later immigration by foot over the bearing Sea land bridge. Once here they murdered to extinction the earlier settlers. Kind of puts a kink in the whole native Americans victimized by Europeans schtick.
Bthat's being hysterical and quite inaccurate.
Who says the first Americans sailed here -- sailing wasn't well known until later. Secondly, there was no such thing as "Europeans" -- both the Mongoloid/Altaic people who the native Americans are supposedly descended from and the present day Europeans come from the same stock of humans who were cut off from Africa and spread over Eurasia. The separation of races happened only later as populations grew and people became less nomadic -- witness the Tocharians living in Xinjiang.
Finally, those peoples who came from the east into the Americas would have been absorbed by the ones coming from the west (or vice-versa) and the present day "native aMericans" would be descended from this mix, hence their differentiation between northern and central americans and south American natives.
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posted on
09/23/2008 2:55:35 AM PDT
by
Cronos
("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
To: Cronos
It seems that this entire subject is now in a complete state of confusion, chronology is in great doubt, and the ethnic origins of America are virtually totally conjecture. I will hold off on guessing until there is more widely accepted data.
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