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Note: I am a Blue Water Navy Vietnam Veteran. So is John McCain.

Further, while this whole process of excluding BWN Vietnam Veterans from receiving veterans benefits began under Togo West under the second Clinton Administration, it was implemented by the VA under the current Bush Administration.

For other Vietnam Veterans related reasons, I cannot vote for McCain; but I d*mn sure cannot support stripping him of his Vietnam War Veteran status.

Now you know how we got the name "The Stupid Party."

Sigh.

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1 posted on 06/30/2008 9:54:41 AM PDT by Right Winged American
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To: Right Winged American

That’s a pretty wordy joke there...


2 posted on 06/30/2008 9:56:50 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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ping


3 posted on 06/30/2008 9:57:08 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: Right Winged American
The VA is careful to keep this distinction of Vietnam Era veterans when referring to veterans who "never set foot on land in the Republic of Vietnam."

I thought McCain spent some time in Hanoi?

4 posted on 06/30/2008 9:57:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Right Winged American

What a disgrace.

Sounds about right though for the disgusting bureaucrats that make up the VA. I hate dealing with them.


5 posted on 06/30/2008 9:58:01 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Right Winged American

Is this thing for real? Even people who can’t stomach McCain (and haven’t been able to for years) agree there’s one die hard fact about the guy: he’s a Vietnam Veteran. wth is this?


6 posted on 06/30/2008 9:58:30 AM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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What unmitigated crap. It was a fracking WAR whether you were on land or in the air or whatever. Vietnam ERA my ass!


8 posted on 06/30/2008 10:00:39 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: Right Winged American

McCain’s gains 20 points with conservatives in they try this smear.


12 posted on 06/30/2008 10:02:10 AM PDT by McGruff (This is not the [insert name here] I knew.)
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Geez, and all this time I thought I was Viet Nam veteran. Man was I fooled. Who knew? I guess those loud noises were just sound effects and all that steaming up and down the coast was just part of a luxury cruise.

I wonder if the those in Navy during WWII are no longer WWII veterans or those now serving off the coast of Iraq are not now not Iraq war veterans?


13 posted on 06/30/2008 10:03:18 AM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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This is sick.

Tonk is doing about 60 rpm right about now.


14 posted on 06/30/2008 10:03:40 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Right Winged American

Hm...

Well if it isn’t a joke, I’m sure it’s not political....


15 posted on 06/30/2008 10:04:13 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Right Winged American

This is not merely about John McCain, this is about ALL US Navy pilots and others who fought in the war zone from ships and aircraft but who did not “set foot” in the Republic of Vietnam. Plenty of other Naval Aviators plus Air Force pilots flying from bases in Thailand, etc. flew into deadly combat without setting foot in the RVN. Sounds like this is being driven by the potential herbicide exposure issue but it’s still an idiotic distinction when it throws A-4 and so many other combat pilots into the same category as the lying Tom Harkin who served in Japan during the Vietnam Era but did not serve in combat.


16 posted on 06/30/2008 10:04:35 AM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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fwiw, my post above was not for you, who obviously know these issues far more thoroughly than I do..... I was just babbling to other FReepers and lurkers.... :^)


17 posted on 06/30/2008 10:07:02 AM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: Right Winged American

Obama says he doesn’t want his war record questioned.


18 posted on 06/30/2008 10:07:24 AM PDT by AU72
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What a crock of crap. Being a POW in N Vietnam for 5 years and he doesn’t qualify as a Vietnam War Veteran? People, contact your Congressmen and Senators about this and get it fixed.


20 posted on 06/30/2008 10:08:25 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Are they next going to say that McCain was not a Prisoner of War? Because since the VA now says that he is not a veteran of the Vietnam WAR. So how can they say that he was a POW when, according to their twisted logic, he is not even the veteran of the war?

God, I detest the VA.


21 posted on 06/30/2008 10:09:43 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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This would be a slap in the face to every Vietnam Vet who was a pilot like McCain. Whomever is trying to push this has major McCain Derangement Syndrome.
22 posted on 06/30/2008 10:10:38 AM PDT by mnehring (What in the name of Gods arse is potpourri? Looks like breakfast. Smells like your auntie.)
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I don’t get it. Can you explain this out? How does a veteran become not a veteran?


23 posted on 06/30/2008 10:11:33 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: Right Winged American

Now I’m wondering if I have to give my combat action ribbon back.


24 posted on 06/30/2008 10:11:58 AM PDT by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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Remember this sad fact. It was “W” who launched the war against veterans with the anti-veteran appointments he made.


25 posted on 06/30/2008 10:12:14 AM PDT by em2vn
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only individuals who served with "boots on the ground" in South Vietnam

No "boots treading water slightly offshore but well within AK-47 range"? No? How about if I claimed to have touched bottom during swim call?

This could be an exercise of futility.
26 posted on 06/30/2008 10:12:15 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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