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Unstamped certificate suggests Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen
Israel Insider ^ | June 24, 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 06/28/2008 12:20:21 PM PDT by FocusNexus

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To: SE Mom
Cross-posting from another thread to a post that shows faint embossment impressions on the Obama certificate, which are exactly the same as those in this photobucket document.

-PJ

201 posted on 06/28/2008 5:39:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: FocusNexus; All

Has anyone checked the kerning and other word spacing indicators of the text against the equipment specifications that was being used at the time in the Hawaiian Dept. of Health? The same issue as in the forged Air Force docs used against GWB would certainly be germane.

No government has a monopoly on perpetuity. The 2nd is THE line we all man.

the Deets


202 posted on 06/28/2008 5:39:32 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican)
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To: SE Mom

I’ll be darned.

Thot plikens.


203 posted on 06/28/2008 5:40:17 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: SE Mom

Who put it there?

Who decided to use it?


204 posted on 06/28/2008 5:40:40 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: FocusNexus; All

Moreover, compared to MSFT Word?...

the Deets


205 posted on 06/28/2008 5:41:40 PM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican)
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To: SE Mom

It fits in with what people were saying even before, that when they enlarged BHO’s BC it looked like the info was filled in as an overlay — that is consistent with having started with a blank one, that you found.


206 posted on 06/28/2008 5:43:04 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Sooooo..how does one take a simulated fake copy of a non-existent birth certificate, use someone’s original and “scrub” it enough...

This calls for an aspirin..


207 posted on 06/28/2008 5:43:11 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Bahbah
Hello,

Yes, it does. Why go to such trouble if a real BC is available for less than $12.00?

That is the much, much and one much more than $12.00 question....

MOgirl

208 posted on 06/28/2008 5:43:11 PM PDT by MOgirl (Prayers for my Mom, mother of Mid-West Warrior Princess....)
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To: SE Mom
What makes me cautious is the earlier report that people were taking the uploaded Obama document and altering it to show cartoon characters. The first question is not so much who put this there, but what came first?

Is it possible to tell if the Obama document came from this blank, or was this blank created from the Obama document? Or were both created from the same source?

-PJ

209 posted on 06/28/2008 5:46:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: MOgirl; Bahbah; SE Mom
Why go to such trouble if a real BC is available for less than $12.00?

Apply Occam's razor.

210 posted on 06/28/2008 5:46:20 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: deport
"Yes he’s toast if it is ever proved he’s lied or fake anything about his birth, or that’s my conclusion. I guess I wonder how secure the HI records really are."

Less concern about HI than about Kenya.

The Hawaii certificate is clearly a fake. That doesn't prove he wasn't born there. It is a political problem that will cause him significant difficulty. It might ultimately beat him but it is not a sure thing.

If the Kenya birth records are still there, he was born in Kenya and he is done!

211 posted on 06/28/2008 5:46:46 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Bahbah
Thot plikens.

*giggle*

212 posted on 06/28/2008 5:47:42 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: David

Yet...’cause you know they have folks following all the developments.

Really, IF this turns out to be a fraudulent document (for whatEVER the reason)- I’m trying to imagine what the repurcussions will be for our country.


213 posted on 06/28/2008 5:48:51 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: David

Do we have any FReepers in Kenya?


214 posted on 06/28/2008 5:48:54 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Bahbah

BWwwahahahaha!

Thanks Bah, I needed that:)


215 posted on 06/28/2008 5:49:59 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: fanfan; expatguy

Not that I’m aware of...however..we DO have this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037867/posts?page=41#41

Im been investigating this since 2006 at my own expense - I never questioned the school documents when I first saw them with my own eyes - even though he was listed as an Indonesian citizen - maybe I overlooked it - I asked for a certified copy and at the time was politely refused.

No one has been able to dispute what I have posted on Obama so far and no one ever will - I will ensure that when I post them they will be certified by the relevant authorities. Case closed.

From what I understand, several copies have been made and that the “the US government” has copies already which according to my sources they paid for. Yes paid for!!

The two individuals involved claimed to be working for the US government to request the documents and one of the individuals is from what I have been told to be a congressman, the other from the State Department - the full details will be available soon along with the documentation.

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216 posted on 06/28/2008 5:52:49 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: FocusNexus; SE Mom

I assume you both recognize that use of the 7:24 (or whatever) birth time on both the form for the fake and the fake Obama is significant evidence he wasn’t born there. If as and when someone comes up with a 7:24 birth on any day where the text matches this 7:24, you add to your evidence.


217 posted on 06/28/2008 5:53:50 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: fanfan
"Do we have any FReepers in Kenya?"

I don't know. PM Administration and ask them.

218 posted on 06/28/2008 5:56:28 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

Exactly! No doubt this may sadden the astrologers who’ve busily been fleshing out Obama’s chart with rising this and retrograde that..

And I’ve yet to have someone (in Hawaii) state categorically that in 1961 a person- whether parent or child- would be listed as being of the “African” race on a birth certificate.


219 posted on 06/28/2008 5:58:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: americanophile
...and he’s Barack Jr.?

Actually it says Barack Hussein Obama II which is odd since the II is what Jr. becomes when he has a son who is named after him, or when the child is named after a grandparent or other relative. Obviously neither is the case here.

220 posted on 06/28/2008 6:03:03 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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