This thread is the proper place to have this discussion, in case you didn't notice the topic! Are you afraid that someone might be looking?
My dog, Spot!
Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar
Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has signed a stealth creationist bill into law, and American educational standards take a huge step backward: Science law could set tone for Jindal.
The creationist front group called the Discovery Institute is quietly crowing, and maintaining the fiction that the bill is not religiously-based.
(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...
We know that. The confusion seems to be with people assuming it actually has anything to do with theology. It just means "I don't like you.".
You seem to be the only one confused! When you said "I know that"...you evidently didn't!
Atheists are adamant in their rejection of God, or even the mention of His Name. Many atheists are even foolish enough to think they have all the knowledge to be possessed. But, to use the broadest brush, most atheists just don't like Christian people... and God is the reason!
To an atheist, it is science that holds the answers. But, to those of us with faith in a Living God, we know Who holds the keys!
I will pray that your hostility towards God will not keep you separated from Him. The results could really be hell...
Indeed.
Now, if you go over to the Religion forum you'll find many people who don't believe in the YEC interpretaion of Genesis, but adamantly profess a belief it God. A lot of them believe that evolution did happen. You don't seem willing to count them as atheists, and attack them for it, and don't really seem to consider them athiests at all. You certainly don't seem to require having someone explicitly declare their rejection of God to apply that label. Whatever meaning you're assigning to the word "atheist" doesn't seem to be based in theology. It is applied and used as a general perjorative.
Try "Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm". It works for some people...
You appear to making up your own definitions again, so I thought I would help you along your road...
From: Atheism: an introduction to Atheism.
“What is atheism?”
Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of gods. This absence of belief generally comes about either through deliberate choice, or from an inherent inability to believe religious teachings which seem literally incredible. It is not a lack of belief born out of simple ignorance of religious teachings.
Some atheists go beyond a mere absence of belief in gods: they actively believe that particular gods, or all gods, do not exist. Just lacking belief in Gods is often referred to as the “weak atheist” position; whereas believing that gods do not (or cannot) exist is known as “strong atheism.”
Regarding people who have never been exposed to the concept of ‘god’: Whether they are ‘atheists’ or not is a matter of debate. Since you’re unlikely to meet anyone who has never encountered religion, it’s not a very important debate...
It is important, however, to note the difference between the strong and weak atheist positions. “Weak atheism” is simple skepticism; disbelief in the existence of God. “Strong atheism” is an explicitly held belief that God does not exist. Please do not fall into the trap of assuming that all atheists are “strong atheists.” There is a qualitative difference in the “strong” and “weak” positions; it’s not just a matter of degree.
Some atheists believe in the nonexistence of all Gods; others limit their atheism to specific Gods, such as the Christian God, rather than making flat-out denials.
-http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/intro.html
You just need to read a little further in his work.
Its not just the earth and the sun; its the whole universe.
Changing the center does not change any of the dynamics. (I know, its just a bit too much for your little mind)
If you want to argue about theology, let’s take it over to the religion forum. If you don’t want to do that then your theology sucks.
The Bible is good on Pi. The masoretic text has the circumference of the laver at 31 5/12 cubits. This makes it the most accurate rendition of Pi until the 19th century, and sufficiently accurate for most machine work.
Check in to Chuck Missler's web site to find some really mind boggling stuff on the Bible and Pi. In Genesis, Pi is ELS coded through the entire text, accurate to several hundred decimal places. (who knows why)
This thread is the proper place to have this discussion, in case you didn't notice the topic! Are you afraid that someone might be looking?
My dog, Spot!
"Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm".
Nope. I still don't agree with you.
Because it is a deliberate misrepresentation of the opponent's original point.
On the terms you want to have it, yes. It sure as hell isn't appropriate as a matter of serious theology.
The creationists/IDers don't show up.
It's called science.
You participate by publishing. Your results are then discussed by people competent in the field. That's where the creationists opt out. They want their 'arguments' judged by fellow creationists.
Barring that they want the debate in a high school classroom where, in reality, nobody is qualified.
Do you believe in God? Any god will do...
Or the claim itself is a strawman.
Yes.
No. it's the Theory of Evolution being discussed. It is a pretender trying to gain acceptance as science. Just because many learned people accept it's premises, does not make it the truth.
For further research, see also: Man-made Global Warming; moon is made of green cheese; "I'll respect you in the morning"...
My dog, Spot!
Now you’re going all Da Vinci Code and National Treasure on me.
Trying? It achieved that around a century ago.
Just because many learned people accept it's premises, does not make it the truth.
I see a glimmer of hope for you there. "Accept it's [sic] premises" is correct, as that's what you do in science. But "truth" has nothing to do with the subject of science.
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