[blam]

GGG Ping.

[Tribune7]

They were the forebears of the Russians.

[decimon]

Did the Hurrians have waiters?

[tet68]

So why are the Hurrians always named alphabetically.

[Humble Servant]

Several thoughts here:

1. Clearly, this merits a lot more research. There must be no delay in digging up every square inch of Syria, and I think we should extend that to the Bekaa Valley. Upside down and inside out. Important for the advancement of knowledge, don’t you know.

2. Since these people are extinct, we can tell ethnic jokes about them. Did you hear the one about the two Hurrian guys in the elevator?

3. I’m not sure I’d tell people I was an Assyriologist.

[FReepaholic]

...Who Were the Hurrians?...

People who walked around very fast?

[Puddleglum]

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[SunkenCiv]

In inscriptions of the Assyrian King Shalmaneser I (1280-1261 B.C.) we find the first occurrence of the term Uruatri... eight countries, collectively referred to as Uruatri, situated in a mountainous region to the southeast of Lake Van... the Assyrian name of Uruatri had no ethnic significance... (perhaps meaning 'the mountainous country')... In Assyrian inscriptions of the 11th century B.C., we again find the term Uruatri, and from the second quarter of the 9th century, in the reign of Ashurnasirpal II (883-859 B.C.), it is of common occurrence, in the form Urartu, being used concurrently with the name of Nairi... (Boris B. Piotrovsky, Urartu pp 43-45)

the web archive version:

In Search of Hurrian Urkesh
by Giorgio Buccellati
and Marilyn Kelly-Buccellati

We know that Urkesh was... a real city as well. In 1948, two bronze lions appeared on the antiquities market; the lions are inscribed with a text in which a king by the name of Tish-atal boasts of having built a temple in Urkesh. But since the provenance of these lions is not known, the location of the city until recently was also unknown... Our excavations, however, have proved that Urkesh was located at the remote north Syrian site of Tell Mozan.

The author of the following is another "Aryan" flake.

Proto-Indoaryans, Mitanni, Hurrians

Hurrian texts maintained in the Hittite archives, coupled with Hurrian loan words in Luwian and the Hurrians' own inscriptions and texts in north Mesopotamia which date as early as the twenty-third century BC, all speak for an additional non-Indo-European presence on the eastern borders of the Indo-Europeans of Anatolia..."(J.P. Mallory, In Search of the Indo-Europeans: Language, Archaeology and Myth, London, Thames and Hudson, 1989).

There is a great number of Hurrian gods mentioned in Hittite texts, and many of these are descriptions of cult festivals. Since most texts are fragmentary and, therefore, cannot be dated exactly, we only pick a few significant examples. The texts for the his'uwa festival have just been mentioned. Most revealing is a prayer of king Muwatalli. Already in the invocation of the main gods at the beginning of the text, Hebat occurs. The king then asks the bull S'eris' to intercede for him, and calls him 'Bull of the Weathergod of Hatti', which means that this Hurrian bull had entered the circle of the gods of the capital." (Guterbock, H.G., The Hurrian Element in the Hittite Empire, in: Hoffner, Jr., Harry A. (ed.), Perspectives on Hittite CIvilization: selected writings of Hans Gustav Guterbock, Chicago, Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, 1997)

[SunkenCiv]

Archaeologists say the Urartians failed to overcome harsh winter conditions
Turkish Daily News | Friday, March 3, 2006 | Dogan Daily News
Posted on 03/03/2006 8:19:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1589276/posts

Lycian Influence To The Indian Cave Temples
The Guide to the Architecture of the Indian Subcontinent | spring of 2000 | Takeo Kamiya
Posted on 07/11/2005 10:37:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1440990/posts

Capital City Of Ancient Superpower Discovered (Medes)
Independent (UK) | 10-26-2002 | David Keys
Posted on 10/26/2002 12:56:48 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/776390/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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[muawiyah]

Interesting ~ no doubt another Dravidian language with a presence in Sumer.

These guys are credited with being the first people to bring domesticated horses to Mesopotamia.

The Iranians have recently found/redated ruins to this earlier period ~

[SunkenCiv]

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[xzins]

Who Were the Hurrians?

Don't know.

But for all their hurrian, they still aren't here.

[B-Cause]

From: Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible: Hurrians.

Hurrians.

People (also called Mitannians) who spoke a language different from Semitic and Indo-European, and yet played a significant cultural role in the Near East during the 2nd millennium b.c., particularly in transmitting the culture of Sumer and Babylon to western Asia and to the Hittites. The presence of Hurrians in an area can be inferred from the presence of Hurrian texts, the presence of people with Hurrian names (or Indo-Iranian as explained below), and from statements in other ancient literature, including the OT.

At the beginning of the 2nd millennium, and even somewhat before, Hurrians are found in the northernmost parts of Mesopotamia, having come there presumably from still farther north. They are found in the 18th century b.c. at Mari and Alalakh, and in the 15th and 14th centuries b.c. at Nuzi, Ugarit, Alalakh, a few cities in Palestine, and especially in their political center of Mitanni. During this latter period their rulers were actually an aristocracy of Indo-Iranian extraction, who often retained their Indo-Iranian names, but who in other respects had adopted Hurrian language, religion, and general culture, and so were for all practical purposes Hurrians.

The main question concerning Hurrian presence is the extent to which they were influential in Palestine, and here the evidence is not clear. The Amarna Letters, written by the Mitannian/Hurrian kings and by petty kings of Palestine to the Egyptian pharaohs during the 14th century, refer to a few Palestinian kings with Hurrian (some Indo-Iranian) names such as Abdikhepa of Jerusalem. However, the letters, written in Akkadian by the scribes of these Palestinian kings, betray a local Canaanite rather than Hurrian speech. On the other hand, the Egyptians referred to Palestine as the land of the Hurrians, and indeed one pharaoh claimed to have captured 36,000 Hurrians there, but this could mean inhabitants of Palestine rather than ethnic Hurrians. In view of the evidence of the Amarna Letters, it is likely that Palestine was only nominally Hurrian.

Furthermore, the extent to which Hurrians are referred to by ethnic terms in the OT is likewise problematic. Some scholars believe that the Hurrians are the biblical Horites (Gn 14:6; 36:20–30; Dt 2:12, 22). Linguistically this is possible, but the Horites are always located at Mt Seir, whereas the Hurrians are at Jerusalem, Taanach, Megiddo, Acco, Achshaph, Shechem, and possibly Hebron, but not likely at Mt Seir. In addition, the names of the Horites in Genesis 36 appear Semitic rather than Hurrian. Finally, if the Horites of Mt Seir are contemporary with Esau, who married the daughter of a Horite chief, this would be too early for patriarchal contacts with Hurrian penetration in the south, if the early date of the patriarchs is sustained by the newly discovered Ebla tablets.

A second theory identifies the Hivites as Hurrians, the linguistic differences between the two names usually being explained as due to confusion of similar-looking Hebrew consonants by the later scribes. In support of the Hivite identification of Hurrians it is pointed out that in two passages (Gn 34:2; Jos 9:7) the Septuagint (Greek translation) understands Hivites to be Hurrians, while in Genesis 36:2, 29 Zibeon is called both Hivite and Horite, the latter identified as Hurrian. However, the former argument places too much weight on the Septuagint, which may simply be mistaken, and the latter argument amounts again to the claim that the Mt Seir Horites were Hurrians.

A third theory sees the Hittites of Genesis 23 as Hurrians. While it is true that the term “Hittite” is often broad and may include ethnic Hurrians, this theory faces the same chronological difficulties as the first. On the other hand, it may well be that the later Hittite, Uriah, and Arauna the Jebusite were Hurrians, the name “Arauna” often being interpreted as clearly Hurrian.

The above theories all assume that a people will be referred to by a distinctive ethnic term. Alternatively, one might admit a Hurrian presence in Palestine and see them referred to (along with other peoples) under broad terms such as “Canaanite.”

[Redcitizen]

The Hurrians were the guys whose wives were the Harridans, thus they were never had time to rest and so went extinct.