Posted on 06/21/2008 7:21:19 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
Two people were hospitalized after being shot Saturday afternoon at the Juneteenth celebration in Theodore Wirth Park.
Mike Kinghorn, 23, was shot in the ankle and an unidentified female was shot in the leg. Neither person was expected to be in the hospital very long.
The shooting happened just after 5:30 p.m.
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Just saw this and came to post so you guys can use me for target practice. Fine by me—a man who doesn’t speak up is no man far as I’m concerned.
I live in the neighborhood where this is and it’s regular families. It’s a good park too. It’s a lot of families coming to this. You just get a few stupid kids coming in looking for trouble, happens everywhere. I grew up in a small town and have lived all over the place, say what you want but I know what I’m talking about.
Since Galveston was the last holdout on slavery and some slaveholders migrated there to keep slaves, abolition in Texas ended up being the real beginning of abolition.
Wish we had your liquor laws up here, Texas. Don’t drink much, but your on-sale hours could set us straight up here.
Fire away:
I'm opposed to your comparision of Independence day with a state celebration.
Independence was earned by Americans across the nation fighting the Revolutionary war. Emancipation was granted to the slaves by government fiat. And that freedom was achieved during the Civil War by mostly white Union soldiers.
Juneteenth and emancipation are not comparable to the Revolutionary war and Independence day by any reasonable (read: non-racist) means.
How about the American History you learned in school? You might still think that the Americans won the Revolutionary War. The truth is that THE FRENCH DID ALL OF THE HEAVY LIFTING, and then forced the British to surrender to the Americans as a way of embarrassing them.
This has to be the most extraordinary thing I’ve ever seen posted before. Did John Kerry teach you history?
The festival offers an exploration of African American history, culture, and wellness through a mix of new and old programs and activities.
The article didn't clarify if the shootings were part of the new activities or the old ones.
I feel that way about most any city. I feel much more at ease hiking in bear country with a backpack on my back.
Just looked up “Juneteenth” on Wikipedia. It says 29 states recognize this as an official holiday. I think I heard about Juneteenth last year on FR, but that’s the only time I’ve ever encountered it.
Good post. I have a family member who was a vendor at Juneteenth and at Cinco de Mayo. Shootings at both.
I attended the Cinco de Mayo event and it had a very nice crowd there as well. The shooting happened moments after we left. There are always the idiots who ruin it for everyone.
I had to provide coverage for Gitmo from Roosevelt Roads for 2 weeks when the psychiatrist there declared himself mentally ill and medivac’d himself to Bethesda.
John Kerry had nothing to do with this. It was well before his time.
Why don't you look up the real story of the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown in a real history book.
Over 10,000 French Army troups and ~8500 American irregulars were the land fighters. But the real reason for the victory was that the French Navy had defeated the British Navy in Chesapeake Bay, essentially trapping the British and leaving them vulnerable to attack from the sea.
Another thing to realize is that the French were fighting the British all around the world. Preventing them from sending more than a small part of their resources to the Revolutionary War.
You said that the “French did all of the heavy lifting.” In other words the Americans did NO significant work in EVEN ONE SINGLE BATTLE. Only John Kerry would say the same.
I notice in your second post, you modify your tune, and say that the French were significant in the defeat at Yorktown. This is absolutely true, but it is universes away from saying “the French did all the heavy lifting.” They did NOT even do ALL the heavy lifting at Yorktown, let alone the entire war.
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/yorktown.htm
I will excerpt a few parts:
In the summer of 1781, after six years of war, the American Army was struggling...Mutiny plagued the American army in New York and New Jersey.
Seems to me that in the summer of 1781 the American Army was on the verge of defeat.
General George Washington and the French commander, Comte de Rochambeau, met in May 1781 to plan their strategy. Washington wanted to attack the British in New York City...Rochambeau...recommended marching south to battle Cornwallis in Virginia.
The French had the winning strategy and essentially forced it on Washington.
As the combined American and French armies marched south, a battle between the French and British fleets in the Chesapeake Bay sealed the fate of General Cornwallis and his British troops at Yorktown.
This was the real "heavy lifting" which won the war, do you see any mention of an American part? We had no navy which could stand up to the Brits.
Now read the description of the actual surrender:
The French troops, in complete uniform, displayed a martial and noble appearance... The Americans, though not all in uniform, nor their dress so neat...
The American troups were a group of irregulars with much less training and equipment than the regular French army.
I am not saying that the Americans did nothing, and I am proud of their accomplishments, but the truth of the matter is that the Americans were on the verge of defeat when the French entered the war on their side. And, when it came to the decisive battle, the French supplied:
The winning strategy
The Naval forces that actually won the war, and
Most of the ground troups.
The French also took 2.5x as many casualties as the Americans, and their regular troups were far better trained and equipped than the Americans.
Don't forget, this was not just one ordinary battle, this was the engagement that snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.
Now, why don't you educate me on the "heavy lifting" the Americans did, and explain why there was mutiny in New York and New Jersey if the American Army had actually done so much?
There is no shame in admitting our origins were more humble than we would like to admit. It makes our accomplishments even greater.
Again, this is UNIVERSES away from “the french did ALL the heavy lifting.” One example. There was a serious battle at Breed’s Hill. French participation - ZERO. American heavy lifting 100%. Statement that french did ALL the heavy lifting - preposterous nonsense.
You do realize that that is irrelevant as far as the statement “the french did all the heavy lifting.”?
Hope you enjoyed your stay there. For dependents (like my brother, my mother and myself) it was a really cool place to live. Except for that little missle crisis. And when Castro cut our water off, leaving us with no water.
Does the name William T. Sampson mean anything to you?
Cornwallis had his ass handed to him at the Battles of Kings Mountain and Cowpens by the Scots-Irish in the Carolina Backcountry and was skedadaling out of there into Viginia when he was trapped at Yorktown.
Meanwhile, Rybak is in Miami campaigning against the oil-
sands....the answer to America’s energy crisis.
I swear, there should be a politicain lynched in the town
square every day until this crap ceases.
I think he was an Admiral in the Spanish American War. He was on our school annuals since the school was named after him.
I wonder what happened to that annual.
I have one in a box, somewhere, from 1961... I think it's called The Buccaneer. I was in 9th grade that year.
We lived there from 60-63. Pop retired in August, 1963, and retired to eastern NC. Gitmo was a paradise, with a fence. Did you ever do any spearfishing around the corals?
We first arrived there on the USNS Geiger, summer 1960. We left on October 22, 1962 on the USNS Upshur, headed for Norfolk, during that "missile crisis" thing. I was evacuated with my mother and sister. We flew back in the Spring of 63.
I spent a lot of time at the special services dock. I always loved to sail, and I even got to teach sail classes for a while (I was 14, 15). I made friends with some of the mess hall guys at the Marine barracks, and ended up with FRESH bread, instead of the frozen stuff from the commissary. I still hate previously frozen milk!
Some of my fondest memories were riding my dad's Vespa all over the base. I'm just glad I didn't get caught!
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