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I don't have the eyesight for this. I'll leave it to those who do.
1 posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:54 PM PDT by freespirited
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Links don’t work


2 posted on 06/17/2008 6:03:55 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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I’m hardly an expert, but his analysis seems damning. Especially the border - which he’s right on. They are clearly rectangles drawn in a graphics program and only crudely put together.


4 posted on 06/17/2008 6:06:59 PM PDT by COgamer
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The only questionable thing about Obama’s birth is his parents’ marital status. Even he is not sure when, where, or if they actually got married.


5 posted on 06/17/2008 6:07:12 PM PDT by Burkean
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Where is the raised seal? I got a copy of my birth certificate a few years ago. The clerk placed a raise seal on the copy. There was also a bar code and a serial number. These all are used to identify the document as an certified copy.


7 posted on 06/17/2008 6:09:56 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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Certainly an Hawaii FReeper could try to request his/her own "Certification of Live Birth," and then we would all have something real to consider.

ML/NJ

8 posted on 06/17/2008 6:10:04 PM PDT by ml/nj
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If one looks at the normal resolution image (first pic in thread), letters with unconnected “islands” like “O” clearly block out the background pattern, which is consistent with a digital forgery. Even jpeg compression would bleed some color, but the above sample is entirely opaque in the “islands”. The sloppy registration flaws in the lithography is also convincing evidence of a forgery.


9 posted on 06/17/2008 6:10:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

10 posted on 06/17/2008 6:12:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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It seems obvious that this is a laserprint of a computerized report, showng data about Obama that was pulled from a database. All of the technology is very modern.

That doesn't make the data suspect. Now, perhaps there are grounds to think the data is suspect. But a modern computerized birth certificate output doesn't raise any red flags for me.

11 posted on 06/17/2008 6:12:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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My eyes aren’t that good, either. But, it seems to me that this issue should be very important to a great many people, and we are not hearing about it in the MSM.
Experts are available who can examine the document. Or, perhaps someone could do some really independent investigation in the islands to settle this question.

Interesting...


12 posted on 06/17/2008 6:13:07 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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Official birth certificates from most states are freshly generated at the time they are requested. If you request a copy of your birth certificate, the current computer system cranks one out, so of course it would have modern graphics.


13 posted on 06/17/2008 6:13:21 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Thank you very much. Can you fix the links? I looked at the copy and had my doubts, but I lack copier/printer expertise.


14 posted on 06/17/2008 6:13:35 PM PDT by OldEagle
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The information added to birth certificates at that time of Obama’s birth were typed in. This document is modern looking. I would like to see Obama’s original birth certificate from the early 60s.


18 posted on 06/17/2008 6:15:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Bump for truth. Great job.


19 posted on 06/17/2008 6:15:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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Lower left corner: Rev. 11/01 laser

What does that mean?


22 posted on 06/17/2008 6:17:59 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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A non-story. Many states do not issue certified photocopies of the original certificate, but generate new legally valid documents when a request is filed.

New York, for instance, does this, and evidently Hawaii does, as well.


23 posted on 06/17/2008 6:17:59 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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I wondered about that myself. When I saw the “certification” I thought it looked fake but thought I was reaching.
Good I am not the only one.


25 posted on 06/17/2008 6:19:40 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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My suspicion is that his religion was listed as Muslim on his birth certificate. I was born in the 50’s and my birth certificate says Christian on it. He has already lied that he was never a Muslim so he can't produce an original as it would expose him as a liar.
27 posted on 06/17/2008 6:21:55 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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Is there someone on FR living in Hawaii who was born in Hawaii the same year as Obama, so they can send a copy of their legitimate birth certificate to show what a real one is supposed to look like?


28 posted on 06/17/2008 6:23:40 PM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !!!)
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This is not definitive, because it’s likely that Hawaii issues computer-printed birth certificates these days.

But it reminds me of the way Jean Kerri released/but didn’t release his Form 180. He gave it to a couple of trusted friends, and they released only those parts that were favorable but suppressed the nasty details. He never did actually release his Form 180 in the sense of giving permission for investigators to get it directly from the archives.

The same problem here. IF OBAMA HAS A LEGITIMATE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, why won’t he give permission for legitimate investigators to go directly to the State of Hawaii and ask them for a copy, instead of releasing a digital picture of it on a biased and generally unreliable web site?

Release the Form 180. Release the birth certificate.


31 posted on 06/17/2008 6:25:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The plot thickens......


33 posted on 06/17/2008 6:27:51 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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