McCain: Guantanamo Ruling One of the ‘Worst Decisions’ in History

Fox News ^ | June 13, 2008 | Foxnews.com

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I have to feed my hungry family.

There's another article I want to show you that will have Miranda Rights read to captured terrorists, thanks to Mcpain.

[Sunnyflorida]

“If you think McCain is “barely better,” you have a lot more reading to do.”

With all do respect I have done plenty of reading. McCain is barely better, He is the original loose cannon.

[EveningStar]

Once any person goes into CONUS he can demand a writ.

LOL. Too many words. :) Can you paste the exact phrase?

[Czar]

Good for you. As we can all see, it is hardly a popular position to sustain, with even "friendly fire" to dodge. Regrettably, the same tired old arguments are trotted out in an attempt to persuade us to yield "just one more time".

No more, GOP "leadership", no more.

[Sunnyflorida]

“The web page you cited does not supersede the congressional legislation of ‘06.:

Yes it does. Once you are CONUS you get the writ. Once you get the writ you get the Constitution. McCain is too stupid to know this.

[Sunnyflorida]

“Amen! Mcpain and the SCOTUS arrived at the same point. Bill of rights for terrorists.”

The really amazing thing is I don’t think McCain and some posters get it. Stupid. With McCain this crap happens all the time.

[Sunnyflorida]

I think McCain wins unless he picks a real idiot - completely possible. I think his best choice is Hillary. I did an electoral map and it is a wipe out. If these dopes around here want to keep Obama out of the White House this works great and consistent with his history.

[Sunnyflorida]

I think McCain wins unless he picks a real idiot - completely possible. I think his best choice is Hillary. I did an electoral map and it is a wipe out. If these dopes around here want to keep Obama out of the White House this works great and consistent with his history.

[EveningStar]

I’m not denying that you’re right. I just want to see the words that say that once any person goes into CONUS he can demand a writ. I’m perfectly capable of admitting that I’m wrong.

[Sunnyflorida]

Check out Jackson in ex parte Quirin. I think this is the decision. I have not read it but I heard it is documented in Levin’s book.

I am 100% sure that in CONUS, unless you are subject to UCMJ (our troops), you get all the to file a Writ of Habeas Corpus. My Constitutional law classes where a long long time ago, I can also guarantee you that this is the reason for GITMO existence.

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Mine stands too! DU is rampant here!

[Sunnyflorida]

I want to be clear. A writ does not get automatic Bill of Rights protections by the way. But it does mean it is up to a civilian judge - any civilian federal judge. The judge could say “sorry you have be treated poorly but you have been held Constitutionally.” But then the judge could say, “you have not been held constitutionally and you are free.” This puts the whole matter of the case in the hands of a civilian judge and could pretty much do what they want. The judge either under McCain or the recent ruling puts a constitutional test on the terrorists. This is a big change.

That is the problem of bringing these people into the US. Until this recent decision if they were outside CONUS they could not file a writ. Inside they can and that little point is what John McCain was clueless on.

And I am not conspiracy guy, but who the heck does John McCain get his advice from?

I hear it is Carly Fioriana on econ and that is a total disaster.

[Sunnyflorida]

“http://powerlineblog.com/";

Check this out. These guys have a pretty good article.

[Sunnyflorida]

http://supreme.justia.com/us/339/763/

Here is the case that was overturned. It says that if you keep people outside US Territory (not just CONUS, they do not get Constitutional rights - implied is that if you bring them in they do. Ego GITMO.

[death2tyrants]

There is nothing that contradicts the congressional legislation.

[death2tyrants]

An article does not have the capability to grant rights to terrorists.

[death2tyrants]

“Yes it does.”

No, a web page cannot supersede congressional legislation. Do you know of any governmental legislation, besides the recent ruling of the SCOTUS, that supersedes the congressional legislation I cited?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Whatever the merits of the decision may be, this is certainly a radical departure from simply lining up non-uniformed enemy combatants against a wall and shooting them, like we did in WWII.

[RJL]

McCain's demands that Gitmo be closed down gave the court political cover for this foolish ruling.

How so?

It makes it all so nice and bipartisan when the leader of the Republican Party wants to close Gitmo. The court just went one step farther, bringing them out of Gitmo and into the US legal system.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

What in the hell were all those primary voters thinking???

Is McCain showing signs of unhealthy aging with such remarks? Could we end up with a veritable Robert Byrd behind the Oval Office desk?