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Obama's Certification of Live Birth Found and Posted at Daily Kos
NRO ^ | 6/12/08 | Jim Gerahgty

Posted on 06/12/2008 12:30:50 PM PDT by pissant

Daily Kos has obtained a copy of Obama's "certification of live birth."

All of the information is what we have been told before - name, birth date, etc.. His mother's race is listed as "Caucasian," his father as "African." No middle name of Muhammad, no first name of "Barry," no last name of "Dunham." He's listed as "Barack Hussein Obama II," not "Jr."

(Interestingly, in the lower right hand corner is the backwards reflection of a stamp, "June 6 or G, 2007". Did someone request or process this record about a year ago?)

Site creator Markos Moulitsas mentions in the comments the campaign released it to him.

(Also, for astrologers, the time of birth was 7:24 p.m.)

Next time you get one of those e-mails suggesting Obama has a different "real name," send people to this post or that document.

UPDATE: I'm getting some, "Jim, this looks modern," e-mail messages. As Ed notes,

When someone requests a validated copy of their birth certificate, they don’t get a photocopy of the original. They get a fresh certificate with a seal showing that it came from the official registrar, in most states. They keep the info in a computer and produced validated copies on request.

This is a validated copy of the birth certificate, with which Obama could get a passport, register to vote, etc etc. It’s perfectly acceptable.

Obama himself probably has a dog-eared yellowing copy in a desk drawer somewhere; this document is what he or someone authorized by him was given by the state out of its records. Barring some vast conspiracy within the Hawaii State Department of Health, there is no reason to think his birth certificate would have any different data.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bornatnight; dialykos; larrysinclairslover; obama; phony; phonydocs; phonyphonyphony; unreliable; unreliablesource
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To: Tax-chick

And if your name is Mississippi Alan Bedilion Trahern versus Joe Dirt do they fill in the background around Joe, and stretch it for MABT?


141 posted on 06/12/2008 1:56:35 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

I have already zoomed it up to 800% using Firefox image zoom there is no detail in the seal all the letters and lines have pixelation around the edges and the black is too dark to be anything but manipulated electronically.

Add to that someone’s attempt to be politically correct by putting African as a Race. at the time of Osama’s birth his father would have been counted as Negro or Negroid. It seems some young person that wasn’t born in that era didn’t know what should go there.


142 posted on 06/12/2008 1:57:12 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: piytar
Piytar, the statute you keep citing--as several people have pointed out--only applied to people born outside of the U.S.

Check out this information and you will see the "five year" requirement on page 2, with all of the other stuff about being born outside of the country under various versions of the law. The stuff about being born in the country is on page 1, and is very simple--being born in the U.S. is enough to make you a citizen, and has been since time immemorial. The birth certificate shows BHO was born in this country, so that's that.

143 posted on 06/12/2008 1:57:51 PM PDT by kalt
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To: pissant

Beats me. I’m not a government typist any more. Besides, Mississippi was his nickname, which wouldn’t have been on the birth certificate.


144 posted on 06/12/2008 1:58:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ireland votes on the Lisbon (E.U.) Treaty today! Have a Guinness and say a prayer!)
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To: KJC1

Sorry, I was trying to include the thought. I realize you were saying that was unlikely or impossible.


145 posted on 06/12/2008 1:58:26 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: pissant
Obama could get a passport, register to vote

LOL, that a good one.

146 posted on 06/12/2008 1:58:41 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Demorats tax returns consists of "welfare in" and " child support out.")
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To: MediaMole
From my understanding, from III and up, it is not indicative of anything, but using II rather than Jr. indicates one of two things — illegitimacy or that a child was named for a close, living relative who was not his father.

I know more than one child that is II rather than junior and they are all named for their father and none are illgitimate.

147 posted on 06/12/2008 1:58:51 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Tax-chick

Ha! At least you knew who it was. ;o)


148 posted on 06/12/2008 1:59:13 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: piytar
I mean who gives a sh#t about the actual laws and Constitution in moderm dumbed down America? Certainly most freepers don’t, or these concepts are just too complex for them to grasp (scary thought).

You are the one (among others) mis-reading who/what situations the statute is intended for!!!!

This is not rocket science, people!

149 posted on 06/12/2008 2:00:24 PM PDT by gdani (I'm a firm believer in DE-evolution -- just look around........)
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To: pissant

Of course. I’d be offended that you even considered any other possibility, but my son just brought me a snake and I have to leave.


150 posted on 06/12/2008 2:00:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ireland votes on the Lisbon (E.U.) Treaty today! Have a Guinness and say a prayer!)
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To: piytar
There is also no statute defining "natural born citizen," but the consensus among scholars and in the case law is that it means someone who was a citizen at birth automatically, as opposed to someone who needed to go through the naturalization process or some other operation of law. So BHO qualifies.

If you have a single piece of actual information to the contrary, I'd love to see it. If your response will just be to continue to tell us how stupid we all are, well, then I guess I'd rather not.

151 posted on 06/12/2008 2:01:48 PM PDT by kalt
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To: ravingnutter

“Mom changed her mind on the way to the hospital when she saw my actual name on a storefront”

Furniture? Appliance? Hop-In? Supply?

Do tell!


152 posted on 06/12/2008 2:04:57 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: pissant

It does not list genus and species. Is he really homo sapiens?


153 posted on 06/12/2008 2:05:41 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Tax-chick

Same for me from Ohio and one from CA my three kids needed to have certified copies to get passports. You have to pay more to get them certified, but they do come without a stamp if it is for information only.


154 posted on 06/12/2008 2:08:20 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( VOTE FOR McCAIN 2008! Support Florida's Gus Bilirakus, FL-9)
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To: Tax-chick
According to Miss Manners, 2nd indicates that the child is named after an older relative who is not his father.

It is a possibility, but not in the cases of any males I know who are 2nd's, rather than Jr's.

155 posted on 06/12/2008 2:09:32 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: MediaMole

I always thought it was indicative of the parents not wanting their kid called “Junior” all the time.


156 posted on 06/12/2008 2:11:54 PM PDT by Eepsy (12-26-2008 +1)
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To: ASA Vet
My paternal grandfather's first name was Marion.

Just like John Wayne's....:-)

157 posted on 06/12/2008 2:12:45 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Cicero

Which legitimate pres representatives have requested a copy of Obama’s birth certificate? I haven’t seen anything about this anywhere but here and a couple internet blogs.


158 posted on 06/12/2008 2:13:31 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: KJC1
I was born in Hawaii and had to order a copy of my birth certificate not too long ago. It looks exactly like this one. Anyone chasing this as a fake is wasting time unless they want to say someone inside the Dept of Vital Statistics in Hawaii was paid off to issue this or something along those lines.

I have three copies of my birth certificate. One is an "original copy", given to my parents when I was born. It is typed, but looks reversed. Black background and white lettering. Raised seal, no gold or other colors. Lots of details about my dad's job, mother's maiden name, etc.

The second, which I got around 1980, because the first had been misplaced and I needed it for a job, is a typed copy like the first, but no longer reversed colors. Seal in the corner on the front.

The third, which I needed post-9/11 for my new passport, looks pretty much exactly like the one at the top of this thread, except a different state. Less information, too. The seal is embossed on the back, which is why the front doesn't show it.

We've had similar experiences as out kids have needed birth certificates to get ID to fly or get licenses, post-9/11.

This is a waste of time.

159 posted on 06/12/2008 2:14:49 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: usmcobra

That is interesting. They may have changed it for PC reasons in the computer database.


160 posted on 06/12/2008 2:15:33 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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