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Gov't to Pastor: Renounce Faith!
worldnetdaily.com ^ | June 09, 2008 | staff

Posted on 06/09/2008 8:26:35 PM PDT by kellynla

The Canadian government has ordered a Christian pastor to renounce his faith and never again express moral opposition to homosexuality, according to a new report.

In a decision handed down just days ago in the penalty phase of the quasi-judicial proceedings run by the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal, evangelical pastor Stephen Boisson was banned from expressing his biblical perspective of homosexuality and ordered to pay $5,000 for "damages for pain and suffering" as well as apologize to the activist who complained of being hurt.

According to a report from Pete Vere at the Catholic Exchange, the penalty could foreshadow the possible fate of Father Alphonse de Valk, who also has cited the biblical perspective on homosexuality in the nation's debate over same-sex "marriage" and now faces HRC charges.

Boisson had written a letter to the editor of his local Red Deer newspaper in 2002 denouncing the advance of homosexual activism as "wicked" and stating: "Children as young as five and six years of age are being subjected to psychologically and physiologically damaging pro-homosexual literature and guidance in the public school system; all under the fraudulent guise of equal rights."

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TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: ac; canada; censorship; christianity; faith; firstamendment; gays; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pastor
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To: goldstategop

So what’s going to happen when some Canadian Muslim Iman denounces gays — and then sues the Canadian Human Rights commission for engaging in a hate crime when it denounces him?

This is becoming too weird for human comprehension!


41 posted on 06/10/2008 3:26:26 AM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: kellynla

Try and call the so-called conservative talk shows about stuff like this. They don’t want to hear it.


42 posted on 06/10/2008 3:32:35 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: WackySam

Go back to sticking your head in the sand and enjoy your summer vacation.


43 posted on 06/10/2008 3:34:09 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: GratianGasparri
He should neither apologize nor pay the fine. If the government wants to lock him up for his views, that's definitely to be preferred. To submit is to allow one's soul to be raped by the state. Let them rape the body instead.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 06/10/2008 3:40:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ronin
The Left is never going to persecute Muslims. Although I can see the day when this entire totalitarian apparatus is turned against them. Then it will really be too late to redeem civilization.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

45 posted on 06/10/2008 3:43:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Arguendo

*Canada has strayed far from the common law if they allow damages of this sort.*

And in straying from common law, Canada has strayed from common sense.


46 posted on 06/10/2008 5:08:27 AM PDT by GratianGasparri
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To: goldstategop

I agree, but it just goes to show how bizarre the leftist ability to ‘doublethink’ anything is.

Christianity is always bad, Muslims are always persecuted, even though it’s the Muslims who have the habit of stringing gays up from cranes, pushing down walls on them, shooting women in the head for adultery - mostly UNPROVEN adultery...

and then of course there are the “honor killings”...


47 posted on 06/10/2008 5:59:22 AM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: kellynla; wagglebee; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; ...

48 posted on 06/10/2008 6:15:59 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: kellynla

The opening line of the story is a lie so the credibility of the rest of the article is questionable. It wasn’t the “Canadian Government” that made the order, it was the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal, an agency of the Province of Alberta. The pastor can appeal the ruling to a REAL court and has a good chance of winning.


49 posted on 06/10/2008 6:25:19 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Arguendo; kellynla

The most glaring inaccuracy in the article was the first sentence. The “Canadian Government” had no involvement in the case.


50 posted on 06/10/2008 6:26:59 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Squawk 8888
The most glaring inaccuracy in the article was the first sentence. The “Canadian Government” had no involvement in the case.

"The Alberta Human Rights and Citizenship Commission was established by the HRCM Act to carry out functions under the Act. The Commission is an independent Commission of the Government of Alberta reporting through the Minister of Culture and Community Spirit, who has responsibility for human rights issues."
http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/about.asp
51 posted on 06/10/2008 6:45:24 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Arguendo
if you have a question about an article whether it be worldnetdaily.com, the LAT, NYT or whatever;
I suggest you do as I do and research the information. An if you had bothered to research the piece as I have told others;
you would find that the article is accurate.

Good day.

52 posted on 06/10/2008 7:08:41 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Exactly. This was the government of one province, NOT the Government of Canada.


53 posted on 06/10/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Squawk 8888

oh and Alberta is not part of Canada?

run along and quit bothering me....


54 posted on 06/10/2008 7:12:20 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Fichori

I love freepers who buy ammunition by the case.


55 posted on 06/10/2008 7:18:37 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (I)
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To: kellynla
Attributing the acts of this commission as acts of the "Canadian government" is akin to attributing the decisions of the US 9th Circuit as acts of the US government except that the 9th circuit has more power to legislate in the guise of exercising judicial power and the 9th circuit is a federal court.

The tribunal is a regulatory tribunal and as such has judicial independence of government.

The tribunal is a provincial body, not a federal one.

The tribunal is not a court of inherent jurisdiction and as such stare it cannot rule on constitutional construction.

The tribunal's rulings cannot bind other courts.

The minority Canadian government is taking steps to commence a parliamentary enquiry into the conduct of the federal equivalent of this provincial tribunal.

The decisions of this tribunal, like all regulatory tribunals, are subject to court supervision by recourse to the prerogative writs such as certiorari or quo warranto.

Bear in mind that the federal government has no jurisdiction over the enabling legislation respecting provincial regulatory tribunals.

Bear in mind that the current Tory government is a minority government and the opposition consists of parties based on varying degrees of liberalism.

It remains to be seen as to whether a Supreme Court of Canada dominated by Liberal appointees will eventually clip the wings of these high flying "human rights" tribunals.

That said, These tribunals (federal and provincial) have managed to make "human rights" an instrument of oppression and an implement of war in the hands of jihadist complainants.

56 posted on 06/10/2008 7:34:53 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

I reeeeeeeeeeeeeely couldn’t care less...

The bottom line is that government bureaucrats in Canada are trying to tell religious what they can and cannot preach.

gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


57 posted on 06/10/2008 7:39:44 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Okay, so if California enacted a stupid law then it would be accurate to claim that the law was passed by the US Government?

You have proven that there is no cure for willful illiteracy.


58 posted on 06/10/2008 7:48:19 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: kellynla
Alberta is part of the confederation of Canada. Its government is not the Government of Canada. Its governtment is sovereign intra vires, including the right to create tribunals such as this one.
59 posted on 06/10/2008 7:48:19 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Arguendo
For instance, the article provides no support for the claim that the pastor was ordered to "renounce his faith." Yes, he was ordered to stop preaching against homosexuality, but this really is not the same thing.

So you personally now claim to be the arbiter of what faith entails Arguendo? That will have to be the case for you to make the quoted statement true. Otherwise ceasing to preach against the things scripture condemns may indeed be renouncing his faith and the order itself is indeed proof.

The only way for you, Arguendo, to try to make that Not be proof in and of itself, is for you to gain the power to redefine the pastors faith.

60 posted on 06/10/2008 8:56:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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