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Dear Freepers: It is Time to Support John McCain
June 5 2008 | jveritas

Posted on 06/05/2008 6:25:12 PM PDT by jveritas

In this election we have very a clear choice to make.

A choice between Victory against Islamic Terrorism or surrender to our terrorist enemy.

A choice between free market capitalist economy or socialism.

A choice between constructionist judges or liberal judges who legislate from the bench.

A choice between Life for the unborn or abortion on demand going wild.

A choice between lower taxes or higher taxes.

A choice between small government or big government.

A choice between John McCain or Barack Obama.

Let us choose John McCain. A Patriot, a war hero, and would be an excellent President.

God Bless America and our brave troops.


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To: mountainbunny
Here's the choice, and the only choice we have in November: either you will support John McCain for president, .XOR. you will do nothing to stop Obama from becoming president. It sucks, but it is what it is.
581 posted on 06/05/2008 10:49:18 PM PDT by cacoethes_resipisco
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To: MeekOneGOP

I will admit I made the same mistake. I was fooled.


582 posted on 06/05/2008 10:51:48 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: jveritas

most will inevitably....i’d rather rebuild from his less than desired presidency than Obama’s downward spiral

hope his VP is reasonable


583 posted on 06/05/2008 10:54:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama will bring the Second Reconstruction to America.......I can't wait, the first was a blast)
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To: Lancey Howard
[O6 wasn't big enough?]

'06 was nothing. In fact '06 was slightly below average for turnover in the sixth year of a President's term of office.

Well, that is comforting!

I feel better knowing that it was just a normal 6 year cycle that put Pelosi and Reid in control of the Congress!

I suppose Conservatives won't be happy till the GOP is down to 1974 levels, and we turn the Presidency over to another Jimmy Carter-who gave us the present day Iran!

584 posted on 06/05/2008 10:55:25 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: jveritas

jveritas,

After viewing 550 plus posts on this thread I counted just 40 or so posters that support McCain at this point!

I gave my position of support, and the reasons for it a few months ago... it’s on one of my other puters and worth reposting... it’s all about the Troops!

It’s going to be a long road to election day.


585 posted on 06/05/2008 10:56:34 PM PDT by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: eyedigress
You think she's given up, Eye?

I don't.

Consider the end game a tag team mud fight with Hillary and Bill in one corner and Obama and Pelosi in the other.
586 posted on 06/05/2008 10:56:35 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: jveritas

btw JV......Mccain did not support Bush’s tax cuts and does not favor repealing the death tax.

he believes in glocal warming

he’s for amnesty...like you as I recall

his CFR was not great

he’s very PC when it comes to Islamic purity or fanaticism (your choice) and to Barack’s open racism

but yes....he’s better than Obama.


587 posted on 06/05/2008 10:56:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama will bring the Second Reconstruction to America.......I can't wait, the first was a blast)
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To: txflake
Would you characterize him as honest? That’s what I look for most, in anybody.

Have you ever been around an old Navy man? The kind that are no bullshirt, brutally honest. The kind that are so impolitic that they will tell you "Hey, you got a booger hangin' out your nose". There is a lot of that in McCain.

I was more libertarian wing Republican and when we had differences he would define it, "I think this and you think that. This is why I think this way. Is there a reasonable compromise?". Often he would take a position and there was no budging him. He can be hardheaded. There was never any pandering, it was always very businesslike.

Let me give you one anecdote.

Luke Air Force Base just west of Phoenix is a major economic driver in Arizona. It provices hundreds of millions of dollars annually in payroll and contracts. Any state would love to have it. It's been there since WWI. Over the years the city has grown up around it causing restrictions in its operations.

McCain voted for the Base Closure and Realignment Commission (BRAC) which was supposed to allow the Armed Services to decide which bases to keep open based on the needs off the Services rather than politics. Unfortunately there were ways around BRAC and a powerful Senator could keep a base in his state, even if the Services decided another base would be better.

During the last round of BRAC there were very strong rumors that Luke was to be closed. Well, hell, nobody in Arizona was worried, we had John McCain. Former flyboy, Presidential candidate, Senator with seniority, Armed Services Committee, there wasn't any BRAC that was going to screw with us.

McCain had other ideas. He simply announced that he had voted for BRAC, that he would help make the pitch for keeping Luke but that BRAC's decision was final. He would have no part in subverting the Commission.

Integrity.

588 posted on 06/05/2008 10:58:35 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: BIGLOOK

I believe she is now gunning for the UN post. That’s just me.


589 posted on 06/05/2008 10:58:38 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: fortheDeclaration
I suppose Conservatives Republicans won't be happy till the GOP is down to 1974 levels, and we turn the Presidency over to another Jimmy Carter-who gave us the present day Iran!

Fixed it for you.

FRegards,
LH

590 posted on 06/05/2008 11:01:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jveritas; Extremely Extreme Extremist
I am a Ron Paul supporter, I will be voting straight Republican.

And we were the guys that were being accused by Freepers on these threads of being the ones who were going to go '3rd Party', yet, it seems to be those Freepers who supported other candidates that are the ones who would rather see a Marxist take the Presidency then McCain.

591 posted on 06/05/2008 11:02:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: eyedigress

LOTS of folks were swayed. Perot got 19% of the vote.
That is the MOST by any 3rd Party candidate I think.


592 posted on 06/05/2008 11:05:19 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: jveritas

I suggest you stop giving McCain credit as a potential commander in chief. His problems in regard to national security and integrity are as great as those concerning amnesty, global warming,and campaign finance reform.

Politics is the art of compromise and leadership is the art of principle. Lincoln used superb political skills to implement some of the most cogent and insightful principles to guide this nation. McCain has used political skills to implement compromises consistent with increasing personal acclaim among liberal media and politicians. The former is dead and the latter is alive, but dead to principles unrelated to his immediate personal advancement.

John McCain lacks leadership for the War on Terror. His leadership codified the Army interrogation manual making terrorists legal combatants. His leadership granted terrorists American citizenship rights under Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. Terrorists are unresponsive to direct questioning and psychological gambits. Interrogators need all stress and coercion techniques our military encounters in survival schools. McCain embraces liberal orthodoxy considering those methods torture, even though his searing experiences call forth contrary insights he ignores. He thereby ensures information vital to defeat terrorists remains sacred and unobtainable.

McCain especially understands from the Geneva Conventions terrorists are not insurgents or freedom fighters; when captured, certainly not prisoners of war. They are not armed forces, militias, or volunteer corps of any country or authority. These killers are not members of organized resistance movements carrying arms openly. They have no distinctive identifier. Terrorists cannot even qualify as spies or saboteurs destroying infrastructure required to support military operations. McCain understands Geneva Conventions intended to isolate such forces, provide them no protections, and allow destruction with any overwhelming furies needed to crush their abominations. Knowing these factors he has promises to close Guantanamo Bay, inviting terrorists into our legal system. He has decided to accommodate extraordinarily savage behavior, which checkmates national laws intended to manage simple murder and kidnapping, and renders Posse Comitatus a crumbling deception.

McCain especially appreciates from our Constitution that laws guaranteeing civil liberties presuppose operation within an invincible society. He more than most understands Alexander Hamilton’s words that devastating, unforeseeable perils must lead national security deliberations. The Federal government’s primary responsibility is to pursue Hamilton’s admonition that powers exist without limitation; providing capabilities thwarting dangers as well as repelling attacks. McCain understands powerful warfare capabilities require potent intelligence acquisition and exploitation before and throughout campaigns.

The framers of our Constitution and the Geneva Conventions held powerful positions throughout the darkest times of our country and the world. They were our Founding Fathers, and parents and grandparents of the Greatest Generation. Their words expressed durable morality earned in our fight for freedom, and against the ultimate bloody deluge of the 20th century. These first generations expressed principles derived from confronting shattering tragedies, and earning peace through victory. John McCain’s actions are particularly reprehensible because he turns a blind eye to the council of these people.

McCain continually seeks popular advancement by placating those coveting luxurious morality requiring shelter from hard choices and danger awareness. His crime is repudiating military and intelligence professionals facing hard choices when confronting shrewd, ruthless enemies obscured behind frightening uncertainties.

John McCain succumbed to the terrible addiction of political power. The same addiction expressed itself differently in fellow Navy officer Randy Cunningham, who was the Navy’s first Vietnam ace. Over the decades the honor and moral authority of both were gradually traded away for influence in the political arena. To me McCain is like a cadaver prepared for viewing. The removal of blood and organs equates to the trading away of honor and moral authority. The reputation that remains is like the cosmetics applied for viewing the corpse at the funeral. It is easy for anyone to get onto the same sort of gently downward sloping path. The final result is tragic, but we do not need a modern day Macbeth or Hamlet as President.


593 posted on 06/05/2008 11:07:34 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: MeekOneGOP

He would have killed the out-sourcing. My main reason.


594 posted on 06/05/2008 11:07:49 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Lancey Howard
Thank you for the 'correction' but it is Conservatives who want the GOP to taught a lesson by getting more Democrats elected.

The place to deal with RINO's is in the primaries, now is the time to defeat the Democrat/Socialist Party.

595 posted on 06/05/2008 11:09:28 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Funny how the tables have turn?


596 posted on 06/05/2008 11:10:21 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: eyedigress
With all due respect, consider the alternative, and our ability to get state educated children back.

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Just venting there, my friend.

I have NO INTENTION of turning the WH over to the Racist-Socialist Barack "Milhous" Obama!

Voting for McRINO unless a "Draft Dick Cheney" campaign looks like it might have a shot. :)

597 posted on 06/05/2008 11:10:36 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: jveritas

I’ll pass.


598 posted on 06/05/2008 11:13:08 PM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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To: eyedigress

I hope she gets a UN posting. Somewhere far away; Zimbabwe would do nicely.


599 posted on 06/05/2008 11:16:22 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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