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A strange election. Basically, the feminist and black components are fighting for hegemony. Labor unions side with Hillary. The academic left signs on with Barack as does the MSM over the Iraq War.

Looks like they really do need a uniter not a divider.

1 posted on 06/04/2008 8:42:02 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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2 posted on 06/04/2008 8:43:20 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Just to clarify, you cannot “legally” bind anyone to vote other than any way that they choose.

The party *might* apply party sanctions to that delegate, but no US law can force them to do anything.


3 posted on 06/04/2008 8:44:24 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: shrinkermd

No, the super delegates are not bound to vote as they have declared.


4 posted on 06/04/2008 8:45:07 AM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: shrinkermd

Did you watch Obama’s speech? If so, how do you think he did and how was he received by audience?


5 posted on 06/04/2008 8:45:13 AM PDT by TexasKate
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To: shrinkermd
Looks like they really do need a uniter not a divider.

algore to the rescue?

6 posted on 06/04/2008 8:45:15 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: shrinkermd

I thought she delivered a surprisingly strong speech— from what I heard of it. Didn’t hear Obama’s but I suspect she made him look like a tool.


7 posted on 06/04/2008 8:46:10 AM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: shrinkermd

Supers are not bound until thety vote at the convention. If they want to bind themselves earlier and stick tuo it , it is their choice. In fact after a couple of ballots at teh convention if there is no nominee, all delegates are released to vote as they THEN choose.


8 posted on 06/04/2008 8:46:24 AM PDT by rod1
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To: shrinkermd

Hillary can still be made the presidential candidate at the convention.


9 posted on 06/04/2008 8:46:28 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny (I live so far beyond my means it could be said we live apart.)
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To: shrinkermd

I don’t think there’s any danger of flip-flopping superdelegates, and Obama would have to be out of his mind to pick Hillary as VP. The bulk of his support comes from Democrats who simply hate Hillary, and jumped on board with any viable Democrat alternative. Many of them would be pissed off enough by a Barack/Hillary ticket to jump to McCain in the general election. I think the senior Dem operatives know this. If they’d wanted Hillary anywhere on the ticket, they’d have arranged for her to get the Presidential nomination.


10 posted on 06/04/2008 8:46:49 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: shrinkermd
The super delegates can announce intentions, but they are free to change their mind and their vote is only sure and binding when it is cast.

As a result of this and Hillary's refusal to concede to date, many speculate that there is a potential surpirize in the wings (like this tape everyone talks about).

Having said that, the hysteria that Obama is generating may over-ride all other concerns for the Dems.


Nothing you can say or do will convince these people otherwise...


Because I am the one they and I have been waiting for...and I am lovin' it.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

11 posted on 06/04/2008 8:46:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: shrinkermd
The rules of the Democratic Party do not require a delegate to vote a certain way, even if they were chosen at their state convention to support a certain candidate. Same thing applies with the super-delegates.

This is one reason Hillary is staying in - if some bombshell emerges against Obama, the delegates can vote for her.

Not sure what that bombshell might be, of course........

13 posted on 06/04/2008 8:49:23 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: shrinkermd

Pretty soon, if she keeps this up, the moonbats in the Left Wing Press will have to start saying, “As we have been telling our readers, Hillary has been forced to drop out of the race, to make way for our Glorious Leader. Now it’s time for her to really drop out. If you know what we mean.”


14 posted on 06/04/2008 8:51:35 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: shrinkermd

First, the superdelegates are not only not required to vote for the people they have pledged to, they are officially not pledged to anybody — they are expressing their current opinion, and any poll of superdelegates is nothing more than an opinion poll.

Counting them now in order to claim victory would be like polling a small town two months before an election, and claiming the results show that you already won the election.

More interestingly, the Democrats do not have a rule that the PLEDGED delegates have to vote for a particular candidate (The Republican party requires delegates to vote for their “pledge” on the 1st ballot).

Which means that a delegate could be assigned for Obama, but show up and vote for Hillary.

However, the PLEDGED delegates are mostly assigned, chosen, or “rejectable” by the candidate they are pledged to. So if a candidate thinks one of their pledged delegates is waffling, the candidate can have them removed, and replaced by a more loyal delegate.

So it is unlikely pledged delegates will switch sides. They should be people strongly supportive of the candidate.

In the Republican race, a LOT of the pledged delegates have no connection to the candidates they are pledged to. We just elected our delegates in Virginia, and only one of them mentioned being a McCain selection. For all we know, we elected a slate of Ron Paul supporters. They have to vote McCain in round 1, but realise that if there was going to be a floor fight, a candidate not only had to win pledged delegates, but then go to the many different venues where delegates were chosen and get THEIR PREFERRED slate of delegates elected.

(BTW, I am certain we did not pick Ron Paul delegates, I questioned each one on this point before voting).


15 posted on 06/04/2008 8:52:31 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: shrinkermd
Does anyone believe that Barack will cave and ask her to be VP or accept a forced vote at the convention for a Hillary VP nod?

I don't see this happening. I think he has an agenda that is even more liberal than Hillary's and I think he doesn't see her supporting all of it. Further, while they may voice party unity, my guess is that they both hate each other.

16 posted on 06/04/2008 8:53:57 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: shrinkermd
“Are those super delegates declaring for Barack legally bound to vote so at the convention?”

Nope.
They can vote for whoever they want at the convention.
Already plenty of delegates have changed sides, one of them even twice.

18 posted on 06/04/2008 8:55:44 AM PDT by KevinJohnson
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"Are those super delegates declaring for Barack legally bound to vote so at the convention?"

No.

In fact just this morning Maxine Waters the black congresswacko from SouthCentral who was a staunch Clinton backer changed to B. Hussein...

Their vote is not solid until it is cast...as in at the convention.

25 posted on 06/04/2008 9:16:03 AM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: shrinkermd
don't let 'Bama fool you. He is very un-American.


34 posted on 06/04/2008 10:16:01 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

have a great day. :’)

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37 posted on 06/04/2008 12:18:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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