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I knew JFK, says Gore Vidal, and believe me Obama’s the better leader ( Race revolt if Obama loses)
Sunday Times ^ | May 18, 2008 | Melvyn Bragg

Posted on 05/17/2008 9:29:35 PM PDT by tlb

So what does he think of Hillary Clinton’s stated intention to fight on? “I think her strategy is more or less insane.”

. . . But this long campaign, this daily search for the grail, has driven her crazy.”

In his view Barack Obama has won; and if the nomination is taken away from him, “I fear what our black population might do. There has never been a revolution of blacks – yet”.

As for Obama, “I liked the idea of him, but he never managed to get my interest. I was brought around by his overall intelligence – specifically when he did his speech on race and religion.”

In Vidal’s opinion, “he’s our best demagogue since Huey Long or Martin Luther King”.

I ask if he thinks Obama has a similar charisma to that of John F Kennedy.

“I never believed in Jack’s charisma,” Vidal says shortly. JFK, he believes, was “one of our worst presidents”; Bobby, his brother, was “a phoney, a little Torquemada”; and their father, Joseph, was “a crook – should have been in jail”.

His views on the man the Democratic candidate will have to beat are even more brutal than his views on Hillary: “ You could beat McCain! I’ve never met anyone in America who has the slightest respect for him. He went to a private school and came bottom of his class. He smashed up his aeroplane and became a prisoner of war, which he is trying to parlay into ‘war hero’.”

“The Bush people”, he says, “have virtually got rid of Magna Carta and habeas corpus. In a normal republic I would probably have raised an army and overthrown them. It will take a hundred years to put it all back.”

(Excerpt) Read more at entertainment.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary; jfk; obama; vidal
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I believe there will be riots regardless if Obama wins or loses. Maybe I am not being fair, but it seems anytime that “community” decides to “make noise” it is violent. Either in celebration of beating “the man” or losing to him. Doesn’t matter. It is an excuse to loot, vandalize and just create mayhem. I am planning on being prepared.


41 posted on 05/17/2008 11:52:29 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: oldenuff2no

The liberals would never allow that, but I liked the images it invoked.


42 posted on 05/17/2008 11:55:10 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: modest proposal

Liberals would rather die than face the truth..


43 posted on 05/18/2008 12:01:33 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: tlb

I think there will be riots of Obama does not get the nomination. Maybe America needs them? I am one who does believe that America needs a new converation about race: That conversation needs to be one in which people are told that they can no longer rely on their race or colour of their skin to get them favourable treatment nor can they play the victim card. It ;s a converation where Amercia has the opportunity to reinforce conservative values of merit and colour blindness.

Mel


44 posted on 05/18/2008 12:06:25 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: MplsSteve
I recall stories of whites being harrassed and beat up in a number of cities across the US.

I fear that the authorities will see me defending myself.

45 posted on 05/18/2008 12:12:23 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: melsec

I think alot of us “whiteys” react to certain other races because they are pushy or aggressive about their race. They want to emphasize they are different by their actions.

I think a lot of us might be more color-blind if this was not the case.

It is hard to take someone who wears the typical ‘hiphop/gangsta’ fashions seriously. I know clothes don’t make a good character but people who dress like that really don’t get any trust points right out of the gate hehehe.

I am not sure what my point is here. Maybe my point is color blindness cannot happen unless certain races make some effort to convince us they have a similar culture. The liberal’s response to this would be ‘all cultures are equal’. That is a dangerous lie.


46 posted on 05/18/2008 12:51:49 AM PDT by modest proposal (Vote Obama: Support inviting anti-American zealots into the white house for tea.)
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To: tlb
He smashed up his aeroplane and became a prisoner of war, which he is trying to parlay into ‘war hero’.”

I wonder what Algore Vidal would say about John Fraude Kerry's "war hero" status. At least McCain didn't shoot himself in the ass and then go running to his commander demanding a purple heart.

47 posted on 05/18/2008 12:58:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: MplsSteve
“At the risk of sounding alarmist or paranoid, I’m afraid we could see an outbreak of urban violence much worse than the Rodney King riots back in ‘92. I recall stories of whites being harassed and beat up in a number of cities across the US.”
OH please come on down my street any time you want to. But do not ever expect to get out the back end unless it is in a pine box. We have 11percent of the population that have been sucking off the publics tit for ages and now they think they are owed the Presidency. I doubt it and any time they want to have a revolution they are very welcome to try. Just remember this time us whitey folks are going to shoot back like never before.
48 posted on 05/18/2008 1:01:15 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: tlb
I found one of Gore Vidal's book in a pile of used books being sold for a quarter. The subject interested me, and I bought it. I have to admit that it is a superb book, well written, great characters, funny and witty.

I knew Vidal's name but not much about him. An Amazon search of his other books told me everything I wanted to know. No thank you.

49 posted on 05/18/2008 3:26:38 AM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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To: ZULU
All of your valid points pale in comparison to this argument, stated as fact by Vidal.

>>“I fear what our black population might do. There has never been a revolution of blacks – yet”.<<

Isn't that the very heart of the “post-racial” BS? That black citizens will automatically go berserk and set our cities on fire? Why must America accept such behaviour?

50 posted on 05/18/2008 3:47:01 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: tlb

I realize it’s pretty early on a Sunday morning, but does this article say that Gore Vidal would have “raised an army and overthrown the Bush regime”? Are you kidding me?

An army of poofters, maybe.


51 posted on 05/18/2008 4:39:46 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: oldenuff2no

I support this action should the scenario become reality. I’m in.


52 posted on 05/18/2008 5:49:15 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: tlb
Vidal says shortly. JFK, he believes, was “one of our worst presidents”; Bobby, his brother, was “a phoney, a little Torquemada”; and their father, Joseph, was “a crook – should have been in jail”.

OMG...after all these years...finally, someone has it right. Refreshing.

53 posted on 05/18/2008 5:50:22 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: tlb

You could beat McCain! I’ve never met anyone in America who has the slightest respect for him.

Wow, Nobody with respect for him? Talk about traveling in elite circles. I may not agree with the guy but I have some degree of respect for him and have met plenty of others that do also. What a freaky little elitist queen. I hope Buckley haunts him like the Ghost of Debates Past.


54 posted on 05/18/2008 5:56:08 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: tlb
I knew JFK, says Gore Vidal, and believe me Obama’s the better leader ( Race revolt if Obama loses)

Whatever. When MLK was assassinated, groups of blacks rioted in the place where I lived as a child. Our neighborhood parents organized an armed militia and shot at any groups of blacks who approached or drove by our neighborhood. Probably saved us from being looted or worse.

I imagine things won't be much different if they try this crap, except that the casualties will be much higher for the potential looters.

Throw your hissy fit in your own back yard. Threaten my family and you'll be buried in mine.

55 posted on 05/18/2008 6:36:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Sans-Culotte

A shirt tail relative of the AlGores and just as dumb.


56 posted on 05/18/2008 7:00:07 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: vaudine

“He is a sheltered, privileged,queer who has a command of the language, but no vision beyond his own tortured brain and ego.”

Excellent Comment!


57 posted on 05/18/2008 7:48:12 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: tlb
If blacks want to "revolt", I say bring it on. Let's declare Martial Law, round 'em up, and do what Lincoln intended to do all along - put 'em a one-way Liberian cruise.
58 posted on 05/18/2008 8:04:31 AM PDT by Wyoming Cowboy
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
And this time their little tantrums should be dealt with immediately.

They won't be. The nation was much tougher in 68/69 than now. Basically every police chief in any major city today is either black himself or a very PC white or latino.

59 posted on 05/18/2008 8:13:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama is for the Deliverance Was A Documentary crowd)
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To: MplsSteve; Travis McGee; Yudan
Steve,

At the risk of sounding alarmist you apparently in Minneapolis have no clue what it is like to live in towns with substantial black populations. Minneapolis especially the West to SW is damned nice.

They are already attacking us (whites) when given the opportuinity. This would just give them the excuse.

Just look at crime stats or ask any of us what it's like to be in their hoods at the wrong time.

And btw....whites were not just “beat up” in all the previous black riots...they have been dragged from their cars and killed and even in one case in the McDuffie riot, one hapless white motorist who went north of the Miami river was beheaded.

Angry urban blacks (and some other groups) think whites have lost their will.

And looking around at my fellow cracker brethren, I can't say I can blame blacks for thinking whites are weak...we are.

60 posted on 05/18/2008 8:22:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama is for the Deliverance Was A Documentary crowd)
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