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Disrespected Conservatives: Only Yourselves to Blame
North Star Writers Group ^ | May 12, 2008 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 05/12/2008 5:13:18 AM PDT by Invisigoth

My friend and colleague David Karki is about as devoted to the United States Constitution, along with its principles of limited government, as anyone I’ve ever known. And unlike the Ron Paul types who have tumbled from this perch headlong into international isolationism, Dave still recognizes and respects the blessing of American exceptionalism and our need to maintain a strong international presence – including in Iraq, where he steadfastly supports American victory.

Now that’s what I call a real conservative.

So why is David Karki OK with the prospect of Barack Obama becoming the 44th president of the United States? It’s because American conservatives have become frustrated and grouchy, and some figure any result will be a disaster, so we might as well let the Democrats take the blame for it.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; conservatives; conservativevote; gop; mccain; republicanparty
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To: Rebelbase

Completely agree.


21 posted on 05/12/2008 5:50:05 AM PDT by Obadiah (I dream of the day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned!)
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To: MortMan

We overcame the British, the Nazis, and the Soviet Union. I think we can overcome a plague of democrats.


22 posted on 05/12/2008 5:50:09 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Daveinyork

I consider your post to be a profound rationalization.

There are two candisdates, a Republican and a Democrat. Because you have objections to McCain, you erect barriers and develop mental barriers against voting.

You are apparently self justified by the rationalization to an Obama Presidency because by not voting for the Republican, you are allowing the Democrat to win.


23 posted on 05/12/2008 5:52:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Invisigoth
We controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for the first six years of this millennium, and hardly accomplished any of the agenda we had touted for the better part of 40 years. This is hard to admit, but it is true: An awful lot of those failed Republican congressmen were not moderates. They were conservatives who didn’t have the guts to govern according to their principles.

Bump to that!

24 posted on 05/12/2008 5:54:16 AM PDT by Obadiah (I dream of the day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned!)
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To: Invisigoth
Disrespected Conservatives: Only Yourselves to Blame

We controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for the first six years of this millennium, and hardly accomplished any of the agenda we had touted for the better part of 40 years.

So! It's all our fault. Conservatives supported and help elect "conservative" Republicans. The Republican's got the White House and a majority in Congress and did nothing for us.

Now, the nominee of the party and many leaders openly give conservatives the back of their hand -and its our fault.

The author is correct - it is our fault - for putting our faith and confidence in the Republican party and its leaders in the first place.

We were used!

25 posted on 05/12/2008 5:58:52 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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To: Condor51

I’m the editor of North Star Writers Group and the writer of the piece being discussed here. Anyone can see who I am any time.

If you’ve got a problem with our syndicate, you can express it to me.


26 posted on 05/12/2008 5:59:44 AM PDT by Dan Calabrese
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To: Sarevok

Well, I’ve gone over this on another thread, and don’t wish to get involved on this one. But, in acknowledging that your points are valid, let me give you four reasons why I will vote for McCain.

He’s pro-life.
He’s pro-Second Amendment
He’s a lifetime 82% ACU voter
He says he will extend the tax cuts

Besides all that, we had what should have been a conservative heaven after ‘94, and what did we get? What makes you think it could possibly get any better?

‘Nuf outta me on this subject.


27 posted on 05/12/2008 6:03:22 AM PDT by norge
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To: Dan Calabrese

He did.


28 posted on 05/12/2008 6:04:56 AM PDT by jps098
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To: meandog

You are absolutely correct.


29 posted on 05/12/2008 6:10:48 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: Invisigoth

Conservatives must find candidates, support them with work and money, and get them elected to office. Until then we will suck hind t!t to the other Republicans and Democrats.

What I saw recently, that no conservative actually ran or was supported by anyone.

Rush’s present efforts so far is a tap dance very similar to the lawyer’s tap dance in the movie Chicago.IMHO


30 posted on 05/12/2008 6:16:00 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
Whoever of these three becomes president, if we get a left majority in the House and 60 Democrats in the Senate it will be an actual Revolution with all that implies. We will leapfrog Europe in "progressive" development and the Constitution will join the Declaration in the closet of quaint. I only say that because a 60+ seat Democrat Senate looks to be a distinct possibility and a Democrat House looks like a certainty. One benefit to having McCain is that he will not likely use the Treaty power to wall off the Constitution. I would expect the Clintons or Hussein to at least be very tempted by that possibility if there are sufficient Senate votes for ratification and that doesn't require 2/3 to be Democrats. There will surely be several RINOs looking to get invited to the right cocktail parties.

That said, even McCain will lose us the country if he has a Congress that will pass his Amnesty. 40 to XXX million new Democrats with socialist ideas will do that to us.

31 posted on 05/12/2008 6:18:25 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Conservatives must find candidates, support them with work and money, and get them elected to office.

Didn't we already do this?

32 posted on 05/12/2008 6:20:29 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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To: Invisigoth

McCain is a Pro-war Democrat. He should nominate Loserman as his VP. You would have a matched set. The story about McCain changing the Republican Party platform on abortion may be smoke, but it doesn’t mean he won’t and it doesn’t mean he wouldn’t like to. There was lots of smoke about the RINO relic changing parties, but a mega Senate Committee Chairman and rock star commands a high price, and the Democrats for once took the cheap road and turned the dolt Jeffords.


33 posted on 05/12/2008 6:22:33 AM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: Invisigoth; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; calcowgirl; Liz; DoughtyOne
Ahh..., so now, conservatives are the B>Disrespected, hate filled and bitter fringe extremists...Disrespected by whom? McCain and his reconquista goons? I'll wear that badge with honor. What new moniker will McCainiacs and the GOP come up with next week to add to their "charm" bracelet?
34 posted on 05/12/2008 6:28:04 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: norge

I’m not saying I won’t hold my nose and vote for McCain, since I can’t know which way congress will go, he is the best of a bad lot of choices. I just wish there was a “he’s better than the other choices but I still don’t like him button”. I just disagree with the premise that it is conservatives fault.


35 posted on 05/12/2008 6:30:51 AM PDT by Sarevok
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To: YellowRoseofTx

“Barack or Hillary are way too dangerous to let anywhere near the White House.”

I agree, but I do wish we could have an “operation chaos” at the GOP convention and ditch McCain for a conservative candidate! Voting for McCain in November is too hard to take and although I will (if I have to) I don’t believe he will win the White House over Obama or Hillary.


36 posted on 05/12/2008 6:33:45 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Invisigoth

I believe conservatives should stay nominally Republican and put pressure on McCain. If he continues to thumb his nose at us, there’s still all the time in the World to go elsewhere.


37 posted on 05/12/2008 6:35:26 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: Redleg Duke
A great article, but now watch the “Principled Conservatives” come out from under their rocks to trash it!

Interesting comment in that the author states:

"An awful lot of those failed Republican congressmen were not moderates. They were conservatives who didn’t have the guts to govern according to their principles."

The logic of tossing our principles aside to vote for "conservatives" who don't have the guts to govern according to their principles is convoluted at best.

38 posted on 05/12/2008 6:36:26 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (When you discover rats in your house, you only have two options - fumigate or tolerate.)
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To: Daveinyork
I disagree. The author assumes that we would refuse to support McCain out of selfishness. I refuse to support McCain, precisely because of my concern for our nation. A McCain presidency, while a short-term victory for the GOP, would lead to a long-term liberal victory, which would be a disaster for our nation.

McCain will not advance the cause of our nation, so why should we support him?

7 posted on Mon May 12 08:30:21 2008 by

What nonsense.

39 posted on 05/12/2008 6:39:32 AM PDT by billva
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To: Daveinyork
That is apparently what the author of that article is saying - that we won’t support McCain because we are selfish.

Right on!

40 posted on 05/12/2008 6:41:11 AM PDT by billva
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