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If you think four years of Hilabama will get us another Reagan, then you better think again
05.11.08 | Perdogg

Posted on 05/11/2008 11:48:47 AM PDT by Perdogg

One of the thing I keep reading here on Free Republic is that a lot of conservatives are under the belief that if we get fours of Senator Obama or Senator Clinton that the American public would become so shocked and disgusted that they will be tripping over themselves in 2012 to elect a "true conservative" candidate. I have some issues with Senator McCain, however that's not the point here.

Lets look at the last 40 years. Only two presidential incumbents have lost their bid for re-election excluding President Ford. Ford was a special case, serving out the remainder of President Nixon's term. Even if you consider the 1976 election, the 1976 election came down to single county in Ohio despite all of the Ford's baggage. In fact we had two elections, where one of the candidate, the Vice-President, won extending the term of a two-term President (1988) and another election (2000) where another candidate, the Vice-President lost getting the majority of the popular vote, almost extended the term of the President. So it isn't easy unseating the President.

In 1992, the incumbent lost because the conservative vote was split.

Let's look at the 1980. In hindsight, it appears that Reagan blew out Carter. Governor Reagan soundly defeated President Carter in electoral college vote, however Reagan only receive 52% of the popular vote; Carter got 40%. Obviously the liberal vote was split by Congressman John Anderson. But what some people don't remember is that despite of Iran, the Soviets invasion of Afghanistan, stagflation, double digit interest rates, Billy Carter's Libyan fiasco, and the split at the democratic convention; the 1980 election was not decided until the final weekend before the election.

Some people say we can survive 4 years of Hilabama because we "survived" four years of Carter and 8 years of Bill Clinton. Four years of Carter got us 29 years of an Islamic Republic in Iran and 8 years of Clinton gave us the rise of Al Qaeda.

If Hilabama is elected, they will go to great lengths ensuring that they will never be out of power. They will leave no dime unspent in their pursuit of unabated democrat rule.

Your vote is your business. Just get all of the facts and be prepared to be disappointed.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; obama
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1 posted on 05/11/2008 11:55:05 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

What you said.


2 posted on 05/11/2008 11:55:56 AM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: fightinJAG

You’re not wrong if it’s Hillary, you are if it’s Obama...he’s incompetent...inexperienced...and appears to be in tow of his wife.

Barry will be with us for only one term...if he’s elected.

Yeah, I’m sure.


3 posted on 05/11/2008 11:58:34 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Perdogg
If Hilabama is elected, they will go to great lengths ensuring that they will never be out of power. They will leave no dime unspent in their pursuit of unabated democrat rule.

And, if McCain is elected and has a majority democrat Congress how will it be different?

4 posted on 05/11/2008 11:59:00 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: kjo

I am just beside myself with the incompetence of all the candidates this time around.


5 posted on 05/11/2008 11:59:46 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Perdogg

Amen to that.


6 posted on 05/11/2008 12:00:31 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Perdogg

Sounds wisdom, to a point, how are Conservatives supposed to show their displeasure with DC, and at the same time vote and do the hard work of electing John McCain a man who routinely throws Conservatism under the Bus?

After seeing Obamao, I could never vote for the man, but there are races at all different levels that Republicans even Conservative Republicans need grassroots support to win that McCain is sucking the life out of.


7 posted on 05/11/2008 12:00:56 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Perdogg

Amen to that.


8 posted on 05/11/2008 12:01:01 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Perdogg

My guess is that a lot of these people were also saying how a loss in 2006 might be a good thing. But it doesn’t seem the American public is blaming the Democrat Congress for the problems in this country, even if their approval ratings are in the tank.


9 posted on 05/11/2008 12:02:30 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: raybbr
And, if McCain is elected and has a majority democrat Congress how will it be different?

liberal judges won't be selected for the benches...

10 posted on 05/11/2008 12:03:52 PM PDT by John123 (Obama said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: Perdogg

Either of the dims would be so stinking stupid they would get us nuked and then send the perps foreign aid.


12 posted on 05/11/2008 12:04:13 PM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: television is just wrong

Me too...this is the biggest no-choice election since FDR/Wilkie...two liberals committed to big spending and internationalism.

McCain may actually win...he will be awful. For all practical purposes he is already an Independent, like his buddy Lieberman.

I will not vote for either major party candidate this time.

I have had it.


13 posted on 05/11/2008 12:04:17 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Perdogg
"Just get all of the facts and be prepared to be disappointed."

Given the three possible choices, I resigned myself to disappointment a ways back up the trail. I've read a few comments from some FReepers citing the strategy of voting Dhimmi in the hopes of setting ourselves up for 2012, but I don't know any who sincerely believe that to be a credible strategy. More like blowing off steam to get over a bitter defeat of conservatism and common sense.


14 posted on 05/11/2008 12:05:22 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: padre35

We need to get conservatives elected to the House and Senate that will hold his feet to the fire on those issues that we disagree.


15 posted on 05/11/2008 12:05:31 PM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: raybbr

“And, if McCain is elected and has a majority democrat Congress how will it be different?”

He won’t nominate a Justice Ginsberg.


16 posted on 05/11/2008 12:06:06 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: kjo
"McCain may actually win...he will be awful."

Amen to that. The guy keeps giving Conservatives the middle finger.

I have had it too, but I am going to hold my nose and pull the lever in November.

An Obama presidency would destroy the Republic.

Obama is an Anti-Christ candidate in my eyes.

17 posted on 05/11/2008 12:06:29 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: Perdogg

Excellent post. However, none of these candidates are serious about reining in the spending power of the congress. There is a smart fellow by the name of Robert Ringer who argued that getting Obama in the WH will be a quicker death for the US. $ than with Hillary or McCain.


18 posted on 05/11/2008 12:07:47 PM PDT by John123 (Obama said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: John123
And, if McCain is elected and has a majority democrat Congress how will it be different?

liberal judges won't be selected for the benches...

Neither will Conservatives. How can anyone be so stupid to believe McCain will appoint judges in the same realm of Scalia and Alito, when he HATES those types of people?

Get ready for a court full of Souters!

19 posted on 05/11/2008 12:08:53 PM PDT by Bommer (There's an (R) next to his name! I must trash my principles & beliefs and vote for the (R)!)
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To: Perdogg

What would be different if Captain Queeg becomes president? He’ll raise taxes. He’ll let illegal immigrants become citizens. He’ll stifle free speech. McCain is just as bad as Hussein and Hillary. The American people are in the unenviable position of having to choose between 3 complete liberal nitwits to be our next president.


20 posted on 05/11/2008 12:08:58 PM PDT by Astronaut
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