Catholics told not to give LDS parish data

Deseret News ^ | 5/4/08 | Geoffry Fattah

[Cymbaline]

Now you’re getting hysterical.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

I agree with you. The Mormon genealogy project is a very positive thing and it is an act of generosity to share it with the world for free.

An act of generosity means you expect nothing in return. The Mormons are using your information to baptize your dead relatives and that is why they have been so generous. It is definitely not free.

[Saundra Duffy]

There is no paid clergy in the LDS Church. No one is getting paid, in other words. When we go to the Temple to do baptisms for the dead, no one is getting paid. I did not understand your post.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Free means no strings attached. I'm not talking about money, I am just stating that the reason the Mormon church offers genealogy to the masses is because they want to baptize these people in the Mormon church.

I am Catholic and am already baptized in the Catholic church and no one has the right to baptize me or mine without our knowledge or consent.

[Cymbaline]

Dude.

Get a grip.

Your posts were pulled because you were being foul and abusive. If the Moderator didn’t agree with me he wouldn’t have pulled your posts.

[Saundra Duffy]

There are no strings attached when baptizing for the dead. The LDS Church opens its doors to anyone interested in genealogy. I am certain many Catholics come to the LDS Church for help to trace their family history.

I love my Church and you love your Church.

[TigersEye]

The Mormons are using your information to baptize your dead relatives...

Not according to the article. It says they are only doing proxy-baptisms for the relatives of Mormons who specifically request it for specific deceased people.

But it doesn't really matter to me. I'm not Catholic, have no Mormon relatives to request a proxy-baptism for my relatives and it's unlikely that I have any dead Catholic relatives. But I probably do have ancestors whose lives were recorded by the Catholic church in Europe and the Catholic Church may be making it difficult and expensive for me to research that whereas the Mormon Church would give me the info for free if they had access to the information.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

I think we are talking at cross purposes here.

To me there are strings attached to the genealogy program. It is not free if it is being used to gather information and then baptize people who may not even realize that it is happening.

Which is why I will never use the genealogy services of your church.

[TigersEye]

He was responding to me. You are taking his words out of context so of course they don’t make sense to you. No one said anything about Mormon clergy being paid for baptisms.

[Cymbaline]

Have a nice day.

[fatima]

You too,You too ,you too.Listen Mitty whatever in all fairness your doctrine sucks and insults all faiths.How dare you in the name of faith put the names of my loved ones on your baptized list.Release the names on your lists so we can read them,now.

[Myrddin]

The names are all public. The list you want is called the International Genealogical Index. It is a subset of the much larger database containing all the genealogical information. You can go to the library and search for the information. The general policy is that names are not submitted for temple work unless the person has been deceased for over 100 years and their are no objections filed by the family to having the work done.

[Cymbaline]

Well, that’s just a difference in doctrinal opinion, and neither of us is going to change the mind of the other. We look at as an act of love and respect, to provide an ordinance necessary to salvation, that those who have died cannot perform for themselves, see 1 Corinthians 15:

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

Why are you so curious to see the names of those I’ve baptized? What purpose would it serve? They’re probably not related to you as I’ve only done ordinances for my immediate ancestors on my mother and father’s side.

[fatima]

You have 2 seconds,your first baptized me,your second deleted me and you-where is the link?Answer me this,how in the world could any family member answer for a soul gone for 100 years.Are you Mitt cause I am sick of this and he should answer.Shame

[Cymbaline]

Formatting is your friend. You don’t really expect people to read that, do you?