Posted on 05/01/2008 6:07:17 AM PDT by kellynla
Unless the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has caused him more damage than is evident, its impossible to see how Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) can lose the popular vote, the delegate race or the Democratic nomination to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.).
Specifically, Ive calculated the possible popular vote in eight of the nine remaining primaries (excluding Guam), giving Clinton the benefit of every doubt, and cant see how she gains more than 150,000 votes on Obama ��" not enough to catch him except in the most extreme circumstances.
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Now about those borders, President McCain...
By miracle does Kondracke mean cheating and voter fraud?
My take is that about the only thing that he will take from Bush is:
see you at the signing
That seems like the best scenario,
though it doesn’t result in the dissolution of the dhimmirat party fast enough for my liking.
Clinton should get credit for Florida and Michigan.
I don’t accept that Obama did not campaign in those states. He should have.
It would have made no difference in Florida. He would have lost miserably. He would have lost Michigan for the same reason he lost Ohio, but he would have done better than Ohio or Penn.
He was wrong to just write those people off.
...and the miraculous vulnerability of the Super Delegates to blackmail.
...and the miraculous vulnerability of the Super Delegates to blackmail.
1. The votes in Florida and Michigan. Though the delegates there do NOT count, the "popular vote" of the people ought to be considered, since their votes count in the general election--right?
2.
Yep. To all the so-called staunch conservatives, let’s re-elect the clintons, because 8 years of complaining about them wasn’t enough. Talk about masochism, sheesh.
Is this sarcasm?
I so want the Clintons.....GONE!!!!!!!!!!
Are you kidding? They agreed to follow party rules.
No, I’m not kidding.
Obama was wrong to blacklist two of the nation’s largest states.
Those people didn’t do anything wrong, and they DO count in the election. For what it’s worth, Hillary saw that correctly and did the right thing by the people of Michigan and Florida.
It’s not like the people don’t exist.
Uh...Hillary took the same pledge as Obama on not campaigning in Florida and Michigan. The DNC made the rules and both campaigns pledged to uphold their decision. At least Hillary did until things went awry .... !
Hillary DID go to those states. Those people DID vote, and those votes DID go to Hillary.
They are hers.
I want the clintons gon gut I want Obama gone too. These two are so much alike it’s scary. I would rather see Obama go down in the general election so he will not be back in 2012. If Hillary goes down in the primary the Clintons are toast.
They are hers.
Neither candidate campaigned in either state. Obama just didnt bother to have his name on the ballot in Michigan while being in compliance with the DNC. Blame must be placed on the State Dem Parties for moving their primary up from its original date so they could be more visible in the early rounds. It didn't work......and.....It will NOT work....She will get neither ... !
She will lose the nomination ... !
1) The DNC sets the rules for primaries and pretty much by definition, the DNC "can't be wrong". They are the rule makers and what they say goes. FL and MI agreed to the rules, then changed their minds. Failing to seat the delegates is a fairly predictable response but the 2 states walked right into that.
2) I think Obama is incredibly damaged. He's totally unelectable, IMO. And not because the mean, racist Republicans beat him up. Nope. Our hands are clean. And based on that I think it is paramount that Hillary be denied. No MI, no FL. Pay attention to the delegate math and realize that she has no hope. I admit that she's a fighter and -- truly -- anything can happen. But I'd like to see tens of millions of Americans just fold their arms and say "Walk away Hillary. You have no chance. It's over."
If Obama is the nominee, it will be 1972 all over again and McCain will have coattails -- something I never would have expected.
You are aware that Obama had nothing to do with taking away FL and MI delegates? It was the DNC with the agreement of the Clintons and the other candidates. Further, your argument that he would have lost in FL and MI is pure supposition. Hillary had a teacher's union encouraging people to vote no on a ballot initiative and to vote for Hillary. Hillary supporters DID campaign in FL, Obama's didn't. Hillary may have won anyway, but she would have probably had a smaller margin. MI has a large black population and the largest Muslim population in America. Barack could well have beaten Hillary there.
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