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1 posted on 04/29/2008 7:20:37 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood
Obama, who removed his name from the ballot, wants the 128 pledged delegates split evenly, 64-64.

Pretty much sums up the Leftist view of "fairness":

"Okay, you campaigned in MI, I didn't. You spent money in MI, I didn't. You were on the ballot, I wasn't. You won the primary, I didn't. But, hey, let's split the votes right down the middle -- it's only fair."

2 posted on 04/29/2008 7:28:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Dawnsblood

Michigan is so screwed up because of “top” Demorats.
Morons on the east side either in gangs or the Union keep voting for the idiots.


3 posted on 04/29/2008 7:31:53 PM PDT by Tigercap (McCain. For Supreme Court judge nominations and WOT progress if nothing else.)
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To: Dawnsblood

If they want to really be seated, they should be split evenly or not seated at all.
Those states started their own problems and should not be awarded more power for mischief for breaking the rules as I see it.
I think Dean and the candidates did the right thing to not seat them and in all honesty they should still not seat them or seat them in a way that they have no effect on the vote.


5 posted on 04/29/2008 7:40:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dawnsblood
I think the GOP should take the high road on this...

If they exclude Michigan and Florida, we should agitate them and Hillary's supporters. If they include Michigan and Florida, we should agitate other states voters who obeyed the rules and now get diluted and Obama's supporters. If they work out a compromise, we should agitate everyone about what they lost in the compromise...

6 posted on 04/29/2008 7:57:10 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: Dawnsblood
I think the GOP should take the high road on this...

If they exclude Michigan and Florida, we should agitate them and Hillary's supporters. If they include Michigan and Florida, we should agitate other states voters who obeyed the rules and now get diluted and Obama's supporters. If they work out a compromise, we should agitate everyone about what they lost in the compromise...

7 posted on 04/29/2008 7:57:25 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: Dawnsblood
FLORIDA to Hillary?

From Craig Crawford in CQ Politics:

The mandatory penalties set forth by the Democratic National Committee’s delegate selection rules call for outlaw states like Florida and Michigan to only lose half of their delegates to the national convention. And yet the DNC went beyond its own rules to add further penalties, stripping those states of all delegates.

The DNC rules also prohibited public appearances and electronic advertising before the polls closed by candidates in states that had jumped the approved primary calendar. Barack Obama made a public appearance in Florida in September 2007, talking to reporters after a fundraiser. His campaign also bought television ads on cable news outlets that ran throughout Florida before its renegade primary.

Strictly speaking, if the DNC rules were tightly construed in this case, Hillary Rodham Clinton would receive half of the Florida delegates she won and Obama would receive none -- the penalty for violating the campaign ban.

12 posted on 04/29/2008 8:25:20 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Why do Dems even bother to vote? Super Delegates are disenfranchise THWY appointees( The Hel* With you)


14 posted on 04/29/2008 8:52:28 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Jury seated in Geoffrey Fieger criminal trial
[election laws violation]
http://www.woodtv.com
Posted on 04/29/2008 8:18:08 PM PDT by equaviator
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2008958/posts

Graphic Text Messages Released; They Sealed Whistle-Blower Deal
(Detroit and Mayor Kilpatrick)
Click On Detroit | April 29, 2008 | None Shown
Posted on 04/29/2008 2:21:55 PM PDT by taildragger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2008797/posts

Evil America for the Masses!
(Liberal Revisionist History Textbook in Comic Book Form)-Howard Zinn
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gIbiONquICRvee0VfBY-H_agOtfQ
Posted on 04/29/2008 6:48:47 AM PDT by lieutenant columbo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2008591/posts


18 posted on 04/29/2008 10:18:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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Michigan Democrats working to get the state's delegates seated at the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday suggested splitting them 69-59... Clinton has argued that she should get 73 delegates based on the results of the Jan. 15 primary, which she won -- 18 more than Obama. Obama, who removed his name from the ballot, wants the 128 pledged delegates split evenly, 64-64. The compromise, suggested Tuesday in a letter to Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer, fell halfway between the two proposals.
First of all, it's not a "compromise", it's a "nuanced" proposal. Second, the fact that the party previously used some affirmative action -styled method to allocate delegates proportionately in all the other primaries doesn't mean the DNC has abandoned rules, it merely means it never had any in the first place. Third, Obama wasn't on the ballot, so the fact that he's getting any at all suggests that the DNC is trying its best to accommodate Obama in the face of the fact that it's going to seat *ANY* delegates from Michigan despite having stripped all the delegates over a change of date. Fourth, the date change for the primary was spearheaded by Senator Carl Levin, who wanted to do this years ago.

Florida's primary date change was brought up by some Pubbies in the legislature and by the governor, but I'm not sure how many of the Demwits across the aisle voted for and against.
19 posted on 04/29/2008 10:25:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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Interview with Senator Bill Nelson(D-FL)
[”there could be ‘blood on the floor’ in Denver”]
WPTV Newschannel 5 West Palm Beach | April 7, 2008 | Eric Glasser and Eric Pasquarelli
Posted on 04/07/2008 9:44:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998292/posts

Florida Sen. Nelson Proposes Scrapping Electoral College In Reform Package
FOXNews.com | 03/28/2008 | Trish Turner
Posted on 03/28/2008 3:37:52 AM PDT by CapnJack
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1992993/posts

Democrats Fear Florida Backlash
A Failure to Seat Delegation Is Seen Hurting in November
WSJ | April 3, 2008 | JUNE KRONHOLZ
Posted on 04/03/2008 5:19:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995978/posts

Hillary Raises Race, Religion in Call To Seat FL, MI Delegates
NewsBusters | Mark Finkelstein
Posted on 04/02/2008 1:06:11 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995633/posts

DNC stance surprises campaigns [credentials committee]
Politico | 4/2/08 | DAVID PAUL KUHN
Posted on 04/03/2008 8:41:26 AM PDT by george76
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996110/posts

Fair-weather friends: The Clintons cut NH loose
Union Leader | 3-28-2008
Posted on 03/28/2008 8:30:39 PM PDT by george76
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993460/posts

Commentary: Florida, Michigan don’t deserve revote
CNN | 3-12-08 | Roland S. Martin
Posted on 03/12/2008 5:17:39 PM PDT by kingattax
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984754/posts

*and*

Jeb Bush amused by ‘irony’ of Florida Democrat delegate dilemma
FLBaptist Witness | Mar 20, 2008 | JAMES A. SMITH SR.
Posted on 03/19/2008 7:35:12 PM PDT by fightinJAG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1988561/posts

Former Governor Jeb Bush outlines
‘21st century conservative’ agenda (And More)
Florida Baptist Witness | March 17, 2008 | James A. Smith Sr.
Posted on 03/18/2008 5:10:47 PM PDT by flattorney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1987849/posts


21 posted on 04/29/2008 10:32:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: grellis

:’) When I eat popcorn, I prefer the kettle variety.


22 posted on 04/29/2008 10:34:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: Dawnsblood
The compromise, suggested Tuesday in a letter to Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer, fell halfway between the two proposals.

Sounds like the Clintons screwed up this negotation. She should have started from a position of 128-0, so the half-way compromise puts her even better off!

-PJ

23 posted on 04/29/2008 10:45:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Dawnsblood; grellis

Splitting the delagates is a great idea! Horizontally or vertically?


27 posted on 04/30/2008 6:13:23 AM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Dawnsblood

The Rat delegates from Michigan should be shipped one-way to North Korea.


28 posted on 04/30/2008 6:23:29 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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