VOTING FOR MY CONVICTIONS, or For The Lesser Of Two EVILS

Several articles from Rush Limbaugh, Enter Stage Right, and Fox News ^ | April 27, 2008 | Me, and several others

[Yosemitest]

VOTING FOR MY CONVICTIONS, or For The Lesser Of Two EVILS
By Yosemitest, April 27, 2008

After McCain's latest outburst against conservatives about the North Carolina Republican Party TV ad, I did some research that I'd like to share with you. We don't have to follow the GOPs marching orders into the abyss of liberalism. The GOP is destroying conservatism, and we should withdraw our support for this corrupt organization.

Now may I suggest someone that I can support. Someone that the Athens Banner-Herald on Sunday, June 2, 2002 described as

"... the idol of the gun-toting, abortion-fighting, IRS-hating hard right wing of American politics. "
Now that's my kind of President!!!

Where does he stand on the issues? Associate Editor Jesse Walker of Reason Magazine Online talked with Barr in September 2003, and described him

"After entering the House of Representatives in 1995, Georgia Republican Bob Barr acquired a reputation as one of the most conservative members of Congress. It was Barr who in 1996 wrote the Defense of Marriage Act, which said states didn't have to recognize gay marriages performed in other states; it was Barr who protested when he learned the military allowed soldiers to practice Wicca. A former federal prosecutor, a firm social conservative, and a strong supporter of the War on Drugs, Barr doesn't fit most people's image of a civil libertarian.

But in his eight years in Congress (he failed to win re-election in 2002), Barr was one of Washington's loudest critics of the federal government's abuses of power, taking the lead in investigating the raid on Waco and in opposing Bill Clinton's efforts to undermine due process in terrorism cases. Since leaving Congress, Barr has taken an advisory post with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and started writing a column for Atlanta's alternative weekly Creative Loafing -- neither ordinarily a haven for Republicans. While many on the right have fallen behind the Bush administration even as it betrays their purported principles, Barr represents another set of conservatives' growing discomfort with the administration's erosion of individual liberty."

Take a look at Robert L. (Bob) Barr, Jr. statement on the issues at the Barr 2008 Presidential Exploratory Committee web site. There are some things I disagree with him on, such as the fair tax. But look at his answer to the drug issue that Hannity addressed.

HANNITY: What would your vote be? Would you vote to legalize heroin and crack?

BARR: No, I would not vote to legalize heroin and crack, Sean. We've talked about this.

And for those who want to follow the GOP, well remember this

HANNITY: Well, then, I believe what Ronald Reagan said: no pale pastels; bold colors. Work within the Republican Party to make it more conservative. I want it to be conservative.

BARR: You know who tried to work against Ronald Reagan and convince him not to run? It was the Republican Party, Sean.

John Bender of enterstageright.com wrote on April 7, 2008.
"Congressman Barr is a solid conservative with a lifetime ACU record of 98%. His last two years in office he scored an ACU record of 100%.
McCain's lifetime ACU record is 82% but his 2006, the most recent year for which ratings are available, ACU record was 65%. Among Republican Senators only Lincoln Chafee, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and Arlen Specter had worse voting records."

It's time to renounce that Sorry Ole Bonehead McCain and support a real conservative.

[MitchellC]

One of my convictions is actually getting something done, as opposed to making a lot of noise while the country burns. I can’t do that with Barr, or anyone other than McCain.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Somebody FINALLY got the reference. I was wondering if there were any Lebowski fans around here... The cleaned-up version of Walter Sobchak’s rant is more hysterical and insane sounding than the f-word rant. It cracks me up every time I hear it.

[Rastus]

I haven’t noticed your tagline until now, for some reason. The dude abides.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You just reminded me to put Grace Park on my FReeper page. ;-D

[fieldmarshaldj]

I only put it up there this week. It just ties my whole post together.

[roamer_1]

soon to be “President McCain”

Soon to be 'Sittin' on the porch back in Arizona, yelling "Get off my lawn you damn dirty kids!"' McCain.

[roamer_1]

Bob Barr is very conservative, and isn't going to allow the borders to be open, or going to have a Gang of 14 choosing Judicial Nominees.

That much, I think, is true. The only thing I have against Bob Barr is the idea of not finishing what we started in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the whole nexus of issues around the GWOT. I believe him to be wrong in that regard, at least to the extent that I have read.

I don't know how that can be squared with a true Conservative sense. He must meet all three pillars of Conservatism squarely, or I am afraid I cannot lend him my support. But I am willing to be convinced.

[roamer_1]

It is worth considering. He was EXCELLENT during the Clinton Impeachment period. I will say that.

Yes, it is, and yes, he was.

[SampleMan]

In order to make lemonade that's fit to drink you need to add sweetener. Where is that sweetener going to come from to make the lemon (McCain)palatable? His choice for VP? We will see...

The VP choice is generally meaningless. What will matter with McCain will be his SCOTUS picks. To ensure he picks Constitutionalists, pressure must be applied by the conservatives at every turn. That pressure will take the form of backing or not backing his legislative proposals.

With Hillary and Obama, SCOTUS choices will be Marxists with no allegiance to the Constitution.

[SampleMan]

I completely concur.

[Ditter]

No, I am sorry I must disagree, its NOT more complicated than that, it is very simple. A president WILL be elected in Nov. We have 3 choices before us and McCain is the best of those 3 choices. He isn't good and he wasn't my first choice but he is better than the other 2. You can sit by and allow one of the others to be in office for 4/8 years or you can vote for the best alternative.

I don't want another clinton and obama is unthinkable so I am voting for McCain.

[Ditter]

You selected a very fitting FR name.

[se_ohio_young_conservative]

you morons have no idea how important this election is. and for the situation in the persian gulf. It makes me furious. like wanting to tie someone to a tree furious.. haha

[se_ohio_young_conservative]

you morons have no idea how important this election is. and for the situation in the persian gulf. It makes me furious. like wanting to tie someone to a tree furious.. haha

[se_ohio_young_conservative]

you morons have no idea how important this election is. and for the situation in the persian gulf. It makes me furious. like wanting to tie someone to a tree furious.. haha

[Yosemitest]

I couldn't vote for McCain, under any condition.

I'd hate to lose Barbour as my governor, if he went for the V.P. under McCain, but I don't think he'd take it.

I'm not nuts about Barr, but I can vote for him. I originally wanted Duncan Hunter, then when he dropped out, when to Fred, then to Romney. But when Romney dropped out, I couldn't stomach McCain, I'd vote for Hillary or Obama over McCain. But when I noticed Barr getting into the race, I perked up.

I'd like to see the GOP not get one penny in donations because of McCain. The GOP can eat McCain and die!!!

[Yosemitest]

The only thing McCain's going to get done ... is to increase the power of the Democrats, and he'll laugh at the Republicans while he does it.

It wouldn't surprise me if, after he's elected, he declares himself a Democrat, after being sworn into office.

[Yosemitest]

I believe that Barr was hired by the ACLU just to destroy his credibility with the conservatives.

He might be singing the Libertarian Party's position, just to get their nomination, which also destroys his credibility.

But Barr's actions while he was in office was starkly conservative, and I believe he'd finish the job in the middle east only with victory.

[Jabba the Nutt]

What's McCain going to do in the Persian Gulf? What's Mr "No Torture and Close Gitmo" going to do in the War on Terror? McCain's afraid to confront Obama, he's suddenly going to be a tiger in the Persian Gulf? What has McCain said to indicate that he recognizes what the threat is, where it comes from and how to fight it?

I'm just asking, I don't know. All I know is that McCain legitimized the far, far Leftwing in their "US tortures" meme and want to give terrorists captured on the battlefield access to US Courts.

Where's the indication that McCain has a clue? In practice, it is not clear, how different McCain would be from Hillary. There's a clearer case against Obama. But it's NOT clear, what McCain supports?

You've got to face reality, none of the three major candidates are good on the war. Heck, in my view, I think Bush is wimping out on the war.

[roamer_1]

you morons have no idea how important this election is. and for the situation in the persian gulf. It makes me furious. like wanting to tie someone to a tree furious.. haha

Then tell me when the 'unimportant' election will be: Maybe the one after this one, when we are up to our eyeballs in Iran and Sudan? Or the one after that, when we're kickin Muzzies out of Europe?

So all us Conservatives are supposed to just toe the line and vote Big (R), allowing the traitorous Globalist Republicans a free pass on every other thing?

It is time for the RINOs, and the defcons (to a lesser degree) to understand that such as you desire is not going to come to pass. Why that is, is because the other pillars of Conservatism are not being served.

If you had endorsed a Reaganite as the nominee, this impasse would not have occurred- We would have no need to worry about our sovereignty and our borders. We would not have to worry about so called 'free trade'. We would not have to worry about back room deals with liberals.

As it turns out, this war is the means to nefarious ends for the Globalists. Those who will vote for the war above all other concerns are doing precisely as expected- becoming the useful tools of those betraying us.

You were warned. You were pleaded with. You all knew where the lines were. Now it is our fault somehow? You have made your bed. Now lie in it.