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Why conservatives should support Hillary Clinton for President

Posted on 04/25/2008 12:59:01 AM PDT by Imperial Warrior

If someone told me in the 1990's that I, an outspoken and vehement opponent of the Clintons would now be endorsing Hillary Clinton for President of the United States, I would have laughed in their face at the absolute absurdity of the notion. But here I am now, a staunch conservative, joining conservatives Ann Coulter and Bill Cunningham among others in endorsing Hillary Rodham Clinton for President. How could this be? As absurd as the notion that I would someday endorse Hillary Clinton for President over the Republican nominee is the equally absurd notion that barely a decade after one of the most corrupt Presidential administrations in history that the Republican Party flush with electoral victories, ample popular support, and control of all three branches of the federal government would now be on its knees, beaten, defeated and wandering the landscape lacking purpose, direction, and intestinal fortitude begging for scraps at the liberal table of power they handed over to the political opposition and doing their damnedest to emulate or surpass the liberal policies they supposedly exist to counter and defeat.

To wit the assembled "braintrust" of the national Republican Party beltway political establishment chooses among all its possible candidates for President the single individual that embodies the epitomy of surrender, concession, and appeasement to liberalism and a disloyalty to both party and constituent base, ie: John "Amnista" McCain, the reliable old backstabber and bosom buddy of the most extreme liberals in the federal government. By doing this, the RNC has sent a clear and unequivocal signal to the rank and file Republican voter base that they can go screw themselves and shove their conservative ideological agenda. So what we have in reality are three liberals running for President including the Republican candidate who hates his own. Therefore, conservatism, the only reason most Republicans, conservatives, and conservative libertarians and independents remained with the Republican Party is now gone.

So why Hillary Clinton, isn't she worse than John McCain and almost as bad as Barack Obama? Well, considering that John McCain is an unstable, unreliable backstabbing RINO ally of the worst of the worst liberal trash in the Senate and Congress and has a long record of conspiring and actively working against his own; I cannot say that this two-bit traitorous fraud is operatively any "better" than Democrats Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, whom McCain has referred to as his "honorable and distinguished" Senate colleagues while pissing and crapping on conservatives and fellow Republicans, even those who defend and are later rewarded with condemnation from him along with his liberal allies.

But still why should conservatives support a Hillary Clinton ticket instead of a John McCain one? Here's why. First, if Republicans line up to support this backstabbing RINO jerk, the message that the RINO infested Republican Party beltway establishment will receive is that the Republican voter base is so desperate, defeatist, and despirited that it will accept a big government liberal phony in conservative clothing no different from a liberal Democrat instead of bonafide genuine conservatives who pursue a limited, small government, Constitutional originalist, free market agenda. Furthermore, by supporting a flagrant opponent of conservatives and conservatism, not only will more RINO frauds be put forth for political office, conservatives will be admitting that conservatism itself is worthless and invalid, and future Republican politicians would be right in mocking and condemning it. Lastly, just by putting a clueless Republican liberal dope dressed in conservative clothing in office only to be savaged, betrayed, and eventually torn to pieces by his "liberal buddies" for the sake of their own party's future political fortunes, will showcase the failure not of stupid liberal policies pursued by a Republican President or the folly of surrounding oneself with the political opposition, but simply the failure of Republicans as a party period. A McCain Presidency will see not only the continued betrayal of conservatives and rank and file Republicans but the seizure of political power by liberals and Democrats using a clueless and unstable megalomaniac who hates his own party as a useful idiot to propel their own agenda on his watch, under his nose, and our dime.

However, by supporting Hillary Clinton, Republicans and conservatives would be sending an unequivocal message to the treasonous backstabbing RINO liberal scum that have run the Republican Party into the ground, destroyed the conservative agenda, and abandoned and abused their base that they will no longer be rewarded with power or succeed in peddling more phony liberal frauds as conservatives as a solution to jackbooted, Marxist, big government socialism when they are on the same page. Furthermore, by supporting Hillary Clinton, the devil we know instead of Barack "Hamas" Obama, Republicans and conservatives will be sending the Democrats a signal that if you want our votes, crossover or otherwise, do not put forth an Islamoracist extremist who associates and surrounds himself with the most vile and despicable of racists, race separatists, black supremacists, anti-Semites, America haters, and violence espousing hatemongers.

In short again, supporting Hillary Clinton, sends a message to the Republican Party that betrayal, backstabbing, and abandonment will not be tolerated and to the Democrat Party that foaming at the mouth racists and America hating extremists will be rejected out of hand. If Hillary Clinton is elected both the clueless and the extreme will have to reevaluate the kinds of individuals they choose to field as candidates for President of the United States. Many believe that with the ongoing "war" within the Democrat Party that John McCain is a shoe-in and the RINO infested RNC have it made. They are dead wrong. One more stupid, ungrateful, and gutless denunciation by McCain or his RINO cabal of other Republicans and conservative leaders and this dope will have visited upon himself the very thing he has visited upon loyal Republicans and conservatives for many, many years: abandonment and rejection of him and the beltway Republican establishment that backs him. I believe a Hillary Clinton Presidency would both discredit the worthless RINO infested RNC beltway blowhards and restore the momentum of the conservative movement while at the same time discrediting the extremist, vile, hate-filled race infused agenda of the current DNC who prefer an abject race baiting America hater like Obama to a comparatively normal far-flung leftist like Hillary.

However, in the final analysis, the one and only thing that brings some conservatives to the sad conclusion that it would be better for a liberal Democrat like Hillary Clinton to win the Presidency instead of the Republican candidate is that the Republican in question is so horrible and detrimental to the future of conservatism and sovereign Constitutional government that his failure as well as that of the greedy, self-serving, and treasonous political movement behind him is more important to achieve than a single elective office albeit the most major one. That blame lies squarely with the Republican Party establishment itself and its disgusting failure to support its own base when its loyal base, not the liberals they cower and cater to, made it possible for them to wield such political power in the first place.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; conservativevote; gop; hillary; mccain; obama; rnc; tigh; zot; zuluoscartango
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To: Imperial Warrior

How does everyone feel about Supreme Court Justice William Jefferson Clinton? How about Sidney Blumenthal or James Carville? Anita Hill, anyone? After all, with a Democrat in power, the tired leftist Justices will feel free to step down, which should free up at least two, if not three, of the positions. Will Albright and Reno be called back to D.C.? It’s not just the top spot, but also all those other spots that we’d be handing over to the Clintons and for the third time.

And then there are the troops. We’ve seen Hillary’s treatment of Gen. Petraeus, and she’s only a junior senator now. Just think what she’ll do to the military when she’s CiC. They absolutely don’t deserve that gamble on a very unsure thing.


21 posted on 04/25/2008 1:58:42 AM PDT by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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To: skr

Give it a break. We get liberal SC justices with Republicans as well.

Same party at this stage.

I feel like I live in Mexico with a one party system. We had the Contract With America and it was ignored. This is all about power. I feel like I understand that now but I am not participating.


22 posted on 04/25/2008 2:28:35 AM PDT by wireplay
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To: stravinskyrules

I never followed to much of this till recently. I figured Huckabee had the nomination wrapped up last Christmas. Then I thought Hilary had the dem ticket so I wasn’t worried. Then I found out McCain had the GOP ticket and remembered this:
http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

And now O-*bleep*-in-bama probly has the loony ticket and one of my relatives had the balls to tell me he’d vote for the guy.

The argument? No Idea. I understand the court issues but there is no way I can vote for McCain. No way. And there’ll be some sooty snow afore I vote dem.

Sometimes principles matter more than winning. If you want to hand in your guns, by all means vote republicrat or demican, they’ll be happy to ablige you I’m sure. Might as dam well vote hilary for all the difference it would make.

Our soldiers won’t be served well by either imperial party. I see them damn hippies spittin on the boys coming off the boats from viet-nam all over again and it makes me sick to my stomach. It’s only a matter of time afore Americans start looking for someone else to blame.

McCain won’t put a pro-lifer on the Supreme court anyway. Even if he did, hell, roberts already said he won’t revisit roe. What’s it matter?

I might vote Ron Paul but most likely I’ll vote Constitution party this time around.


23 posted on 04/25/2008 3:04:32 AM PDT by 2nd Ammendment
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To: Lancey Howard

Made me chuckle there.


24 posted on 04/25/2008 3:04:32 AM PDT by 2nd Ammendment
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To: Imperial Warrior
McCain still could pick a good VP. It is will his ONLY saving grace.
25 posted on 04/25/2008 3:08:46 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: Rummyfan

He think’s he’s special, and wants to be told so.


26 posted on 04/25/2008 3:11:49 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Imperial Warrior

If you’ve got to vote for Hillary in order to defend conservatism, then you might as well drink your hemlock now. It’s sort of like supporting Stalin because you don’t like Hitler.


27 posted on 04/25/2008 3:18:41 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Imperial Warrior

Ah yes teach those rotten ole RINOS a lesson by voting for Hillary.

If you are an ice cream maker and the public doesn’t buy the flavor you are making, you start making the flavors your competitor makes that are selling.

So if Hillary becomes President because of Conservative support, then Republican candidates will try to be like Hillary.

So if you want all future Republican candidates to be like Hillary then vote for Hillary.


28 posted on 04/25/2008 3:28:34 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: wireplay
I left the Republican party this week.

I didn't leave them, they left me (a long time ago)....

The real question here regarding this logic is, if her Thyness were elected and that caused a GOP landslide takeover of Congress in 2010, who wants that? Given what the 'Pubbies did the last time they had both houses of Congress, i.e., doubling Federal spending and the size of the Federal gubmint, including creating at least two new gubmint bureaucracies, why would a Conservative want to vote for a GOP candidate at all, much less create a landslide situation?

29 posted on 04/25/2008 3:34:11 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: wireplay
We had the Contract With America and it was ignored.

Not to mention the original "contract with America", the United States Constitution, which has been routinely ignored by Congress and various President's whenever it has been convenient for them to do so for at least 100 years.....

30 posted on 04/25/2008 3:38:50 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Common Tator

These statement making fools scare the hell out of me.

I despise McCain, but he will get my vote.


31 posted on 04/25/2008 3:39:08 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Imperial Warrior
There is no perfect candidate and in McCain we see that. However he is light years better then either of the Marxist alternatives and depending on his VP choice can be a step back to what we all believe is best for America.

There are important issues and there are not so important issues and to be the kind of Republican who demands perfection and purity in their elected officials is to go down the path to defeat and eventual oblivion. Over the years we lost, incrementally, part of what has made us great. We must get it back in the same way, slowly. It is far easier to get good things done or else prevent bad things from being done if you are IN office.

The authors all or nothing approach is short sighted and a recipe for disaster in the long term.

32 posted on 04/25/2008 3:51:31 AM PDT by Vio24
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To: Imperial Warrior

I agree with the strategy. Besides, Hillary will most likely...were she to win...tear apart the democrat party with brashness.

McCain will crush the conservative movement for years to come. Republicans will move even more left than now.

We need to make sure that the Republican party knows what is happening, that we are leaving them until they become conservative again otherwise they will believe the country is moving further left than what it is...

I recently donated $50 to the hillary campaign. We should consider that were Hillary to get the nomination that many democrats may not vote...doesn’t take more than a few percent and then we could get more Republican congressmen elected...

I would definitely rather have a strong Republican congress than president.


33 posted on 04/25/2008 3:52:05 AM PDT by Wpin
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To: Imperial Warrior

No!

34 posted on 04/25/2008 3:57:46 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Imperial Warrior

I think you must be on crack.


35 posted on 04/25/2008 3:57:46 AM PDT by billva
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To: Lancey Howard
Even cave-dwelling muslim strategists can see that toasting NY, LA, or DC would be bad for them politically; a large portion of thier support would be gone. And toasting a smaller burg in middle USA will not bring down the ‘great satan’ economically. IMHO that is why there has been no additional attacks here; there is no political upside for the muslim horde.
36 posted on 04/25/2008 4:08:32 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: Imperial Warrior

No... I’ll hold my nose and vote for McCain because of the three left in the race, he is the best.


37 posted on 04/25/2008 4:16:34 AM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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To: Imperial Warrior
Please take this line and sit on it. Letting either the beast or barack mcgovern near the seat of power is a genuine danger to America. You and the others you list are playing a childish game. You support the beast KNOWING the rat won't nominate her. That way you can throw yourselves on the floor and hold your breath to make your point, but not actually support anyone over McCain. If you are so worried that McCain would be worse than a democrat, just go ahead and support the leading rat candidate. I'm sure there will be plenty of room on the campaign buses.
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee grow the f$%k up. It's over. You lost. McCain is the Republican nominee. He wasn't anybody’s first choice ( he was my 4th choice ) but IT IS OVER NOW. Either support someone who will destroy the country or someone who will damage it. That's the choice this year. In 2012 the beast will be back. You can back her then.
38 posted on 04/25/2008 4:22:19 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: x_plus_one
“All funds should be sent to local republican candidates. Take the congress, take the statehouse and let Juan McCain twist slowly in the wind strung up by his own noose of campaign finance reform.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>................
Thank you and bears repeating as we fight back the fear
tactics of the Mccainiaks. In Maryland we dumped a RINO congressman of 20 yrs Gilchrist for a Conservative ANDY HARRIS..it felt really great. Stick to our guns no more lesser of two evils.
39 posted on 04/25/2008 4:29:16 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: Imperial Warrior

Yes, support Godzillary and throw the following under the bus:

1. Our troops in Iraq and all they fought and died for
2. Our allies in Iraq who stood and fought with us
3. The Bush tax cuts
4. Any hope of ever cutting federal spending
5. The Supreme Court and overturning Roe in our lifetime

God in heaven! No wonder conservatism is in such trouble. With RINOS on one side of us and “conservatives” who seem to actually believe the only way to win is by handing the keys to the kingdom over to our political enemies, Reagan conservatives are beginning to wonder who put the LSD into the water supply...


40 posted on 04/25/2008 4:42:41 AM PDT by Josh Painter (First, the GOP became a big tent. As a result, it became Democrat Lite.)
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