Posted on 04/24/2008 8:38:24 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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The feminist reformers acknowledge that few science departments are guilty of overt discrimination. They claim, however, that subtle, invisible unconscious bias is discouraging talented aspiring women. Therefore, the major focus of the equity movement is to transform the academic culture itself to make it more attractive to women by rendering science less stressful, less competitive and less time consuming.
"...rendering science less stressful, less competitive and less time consuming." Anybodymale or femalewho is a scientist or a mathematician will recognize in these goals the full flower of feminist incomprehension of reality. The idea that one could, say, state and prove difficult and original mathematical theorems as a sort of a part-time hobby is beyond stupid...
The silliness is palpable...
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Or imagine doing difficult science and then dabbling in politics--that's beyond mischief.
Engineering programs are five intense years. PreMed similar. Extreme competition and anybody who can’t compete shouldn’t even dream of becoming engineer or doctor. Takes more than talent.
Waiting for the “Iron my lab coat” comment.
If he means applying Title IX to science, then we would establish separate “teams” of female scientists, while at the same time eliminating some teams of male scientists - all in the name of gender equity.
What is the correlation between the increase in women who are school principles and the increase in boys taking Ritalin and other drugs to control “unruly” behavior.I don't think boyish behavior was even considered an issue unitl the feminists of the late 60's decided public school was overly male centric.
I have one better. A friend of mine in social sciences likened the class time for a few of her courses to being on Oprah.
I don’t think there is Oprah - time in the sciences. I know a lot of women who luuuuuv Oprah and probably do link the “new age street therapy” (not my term, but I like it) to intellectual discourse.
Congressman Brian Baird, a Democrat from Washington State, asked a room full of activist women how best to bring American scientists into line: "What kind of hammer should we use?"well, I guess the hammer won't be 'equal protection under the law'. Thanks SwB.
As a female electronics engineer, I can’t tell you how much this pisses me off. If women want to go into science and engineering, let them compete with men on a LEVEL playing field.
"We'll make it kinder and gentler, you know....more feminized".
There's a reason why engineering is rigorous.
Hearts and Violins and Flowers are wonderful as far as my company is concerned...so long as things are going well. When it hits the fan, though, they want the best possible people in front of the problem...regardless of their gender. And, for the moment at least, it's men that are willing (and able) to work the long hours, to put in the long, last-minute travel, to fix the spur-of-the-moment blowups.
Speaking solely for myself, I don't want a C+ touchy-feely hire designing the bridges that I drive on every day, either.
As a female electronics engineer, I cant tell you how much this pisses me off. If women want to go into science and engineering, let them compete with men on a LEVEL playing field.
Several women of my acquaintance are mathematicians; they, too, would be pissed off by this article, I am quite certain.
That would be the "rape continuum" so beloved of radical feminists, that has been copied and expanded with respect to racism in Whiteness Studies. It's an invisible, all-pervasive substance that holds the oppressed back and through which the non-oppressed swim like fish, and notice it as little as fish notice water.
It is ironic that this silliness is seriously applied to the field of science, which not so recently shed a similar theoretical nonentity the physicists called The Aether. It had to exist for the theories to work, you see, at least until somebody came up with a new set of theories.
That isn't likely to happen in the social sciences, unfortunately. This sort of thing is very far from scientific. It's a religious doctrine, and heretics will be destroyed. Anyone who thinks I'm overstating the case should try bucking the Diversity industry some time. Best of luck, and have your resume up to date.
Quotas of any kind are un-American. This is utter flapdoodle.
Your comments echo those of my mother. Though not an engineer, she was a GS-13 working for the Air Force (i.e. she was usually the only woman in the Board room Meeting).
In addition, as one with two daughters, Title IX is a horrible law and should be repealed. What ever happened to competing based upon merit.
Oh brother.
I've been following this stupid Title IX debate for a while. One of the justifications is that there are nw more women in medical and veterinary programs than men, but not in just as challenging physics and engineering programs. What I hate is the idea that they want to implement "co-operative" learning where teamwork and effort are rewarded above problem solving. They want to do to colleges and univeristies what has been done to highschool education - simplify it so more women can graduate.
Bump.
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