Barack Obama Claims He's Not "Pro-Abortion," Abortion Not a "Good Thing"

LifeNews.com ^ | April 13, 2008 | Steven Ertelt

[julieee]

by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor April 11, 2008

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Barack Obama has voted against every limit on abortion as a member of the U.S. Senate -- including repeated votes against making sure taxpayers aren't forced to pay for abortions here or overseas. But Obama told the media on Friday that no one, including him, is pro-abortion.

[maine-iac7]

As I said, it doesn’t bother me, but to me one picture of Bush standing in front of a podium looks pretty much like any other picture of Bush in front of a podium.

You'd make a great politician.

First you post your thinly disguised hint that the daily photos of our POTUS is taking up too much bandwidth - not that it bothers you (cough cough) and then you again plug it's demise, again with the disclaimer "As I said, it doesn't bother me, BUT..."

And oabamama doesn't support abortion or what the Rev. Wrong spouts or believe that the Typical White Person is a Bitter, gun-toting, Jesus-loving hick.

Yep. You seem to be a perfect candidate for politics - of the far left.

(BTW. Don't you think worry about band-width is up to Jim R. Don't you think he can handle it?)

This graphic may illustrate your posture.

[Amendment10]

I hope that somebody can substantiate the following deceptive voting practice in Illinois. It concerns Obama's voting record, particularly where abortion issues are concerned.

"Obama's record in Illinois represents that of a pragmatic progressive, who pushed for moderate reforms and opposed right-wing legislation. In the IL legislature, voting "present" is the equivalent of voting "no" because a majority of "yes" votes are required for passage. Many IL legislators use the "present" vote as an evasion on an unpopular choice, so that they can avoid being targeted for voting "no." During the 2004 Democratic primary, an opponent mocked Obama's "present" vote on abortion bills with flyers portraying a rubber duck and the words, "He ducked!"."

--Barack Obama on Abortion
OnTheIssues
http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm

[wagglebee]

If you had bothered to read the comment I was responding to, it was talking about how newbies used to get a lot of grief for posting articles that have already been posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2001161/posts?page=35#35

I was simply pointing out that a new thread in and of itself doesn’t use up that much bandwidth, what does is the posting of graphics. I then offered the example of numerous pictures of Bush at a podium. YOU extrapolated some convoluted notion that I opposed graphics.

Additionally, your inference that I somehow was supporting Obama’s position on abortion is totally without merit. I probably post the majority of pro-life threads here on FR; and while I’ve had plenty of things said about me, NOBODY has EVER implied that I am pro-abortion. Furthermore, your contention that I am somehow far-left is equally without uncalled for.

[trisham]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[maine-iac7]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

try following the posts back -

[trisham]

I did.

[BykrBayb]

So did I. It still doesn’t make any sense.

[trisham]

Wagglebee is adamantly pro-life, as can be seen in a long history of his posts. He is also conservative, which is also well documented.

In fact, I can think of no one here on Free Republic who has done more to advance the pro-life cause.

I think you owe him an apology.

[BykrBayb]

try following the posts back -

Yes, you should try that, before flying off on a random drunken rant.

Wagglebee has a long record of pro-life, Christian, conservative posts. Even without knowing that, his posts on this thread would not make any reasonable person think otherwise.

[wagglebee]

Thank you so very much for your kind words. :-)

[floriduh voter]

gramma, as far as I know, wagglebee is a genuine conservative who will hold his nose to vote for John McCain. He’s pro-life and anti-left as far as I know.

[trisham]

They are well deserved. :)

[Mrs. Don-o]

A prson can be "pro-" something, can be "for" something, either as a means or as an end.

He's probably not enthused about killing babies. He doesn't rejoice in the end result. I'll grant him that. But he's willing, not only to tolerate 1,000,000+ Americans choosing "killing babies" as a means to an end, but defends it, facilitates it, and will fund it if he gets a chance. So he is Just like, presumably, the typical armed robber isn't pro-robbery as an end. He would prefer if other people's money just flew out of their wallets and into his hands. But as a means to an end, he'll choose it and choose it again. That makes him pro-robbery.

Some people think, though, that if they wrinkle their brows and express a certain amount of conflict about the evil that they do, that makes it OK because it shows that underneath it all, they're still nice people after all.

[MrB]

And, if you’ve brainwashed yourself into not believing in objective truth,

you can just say that you personally oppose abortion, but it may not be wrong for someone else to do it.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you for posting this, julieee, and welcome to Free Republic.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"And, if you’ve brainwashed yourself into not believing in objective truth, you can just say that you personally oppose abortion, but it may not be wrong for someone else to do it."

In that case the obvious question is, "Why do you personally oppose abortion?" If their reason is because they don't think it's OK to kill a baby, then you need to delve into whether homicide is generally tolerable as a private choice.

So the "personally-opposed" person is in a strange bind because it generally involves -- at best --- a confused idea about the general acceptability of homicide.

[cpforlife.org]

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[MrB]

Ah, but you must remember, the newest liberal generation is

“comfortable with contradiction”

In other words, showing them the logical fallacy of their position doesn’t affect their position.

[Sun]

“Obama has spent a scant two years in the Senate but served eight years at the Illinois capitol in Springfield.

During that time, Obama voted AGAINST (emphasis mine) a bill that received national attention and would protect babies born alive after botched abortions.”

http://www.lifenews.com/nat2877.html

Obama wanted born-alive babies to be left to die on a shelf.

[8mmMauser]

From a gun-toting Mainer still watching the snow melt...

Thanks, good friend wagglebee for the ping.

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8mm