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ACLU Calls for Independent Counsel to Investigate Administration’s Approval of Torture and Abuse
ACLU ^ | 12-Apr-08 | Unknown

Posted on 04/13/2008 11:31:53 AM PDT by Jay777

In a stunning admission to ABC news Friday night, President Bush declared that he knew his top national security advisers discussed and approved specific details of the CIA’s use of torture. Bush reportedly told ABC, “I’m aware our national security team met on this issue. And I approved.” Bush also defended the use of waterboarding.

Recent reports indicate that high-level advisers including Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell and George Tenet were part of the National Security Council’s “Principals Committee” that met regularly and approved the CIA’s use of “combined” “enhanced” interrogation techniques, even pushing the limits of the now infamous 2002 Justice Department “torture memo.” These top advisers reportedly signed off on how the CIA would interrogate suspects – whether they would be slapped, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning.

“We have always known that the CIA’s use of torture was approved from the very top levels of the U.S. government, yet the latest revelations about knowledge from the president himself and authorization from his top advisers only confirms our worst fears,” said Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU. “It is a very sad day when the president of the United States subverts the Constitution, the rule of law, and American values of justice.”

Romero added, “It is more important than ever that the U.S. government, when seeking justice against those it suspects of harming us, adhere to our commitment to due process and the rule of law. That’s why the ACLU has taken the extraordinary step to offer our assistance to those being prosecuted under the unconstitutional military commissions process.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; dhimmitude
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1 posted on 04/13/2008 11:31:53 AM PDT by Jay777
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To: Jay777

ACLU can go screw itself.


2 posted on 04/13/2008 11:37:09 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: wastedyears

I was hoping to get some discussion on this to take a temperature of conservatives to help form some thoughts for a post at my blog.


3 posted on 04/13/2008 11:42:30 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

98.6 here


4 posted on 04/13/2008 11:43:34 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Jay777

Absurd, the Constitution doesn’t address treatment of enemy combatants, only criminal defendents and suspects.

Its perfectly legal to summarily courtmartial and shoot spy and saboteur enemy combatants acting out of uniform. I don’t see where less severe treatment can even be questioned on a legal basis.


5 posted on 04/13/2008 11:46:13 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Jay777
Including Nancy Pelosi who had asked, in 2003, if the “techniques were harsh enough?”
6 posted on 04/13/2008 11:47:51 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Jay777
The ACLU can masticate feces, auto-impregnate, and expire.

Please.

7 posted on 04/13/2008 11:49:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: surrender, kill them, or die.)
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To: Jay777

If it’s the ACLU, CAIR, the UN, the EU, Soviets, Islam, anti-2A, my temperature is over 102F.


8 posted on 04/13/2008 11:51:11 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Jay777

Huge question here for the American sheeple.

Who would you rather have protecting your ass; Dick Cheney or the ACLU?

Confusing question? You’re dismissed. Either brainwashed already or too stupid to answer.

Undecided? Both A & B above.


9 posted on 04/13/2008 11:51:30 AM PDT by Chuck54
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To: Jay777

FM 5-25


10 posted on 04/13/2008 11:51:59 AM PDT by Boblo
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To: Grizzled Bear

Where did you see that on Pelosi?


11 posted on 04/13/2008 11:55:42 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777
I saw something on FR, on one of the "Water Boarding" articles. It referenced the "outrage" of the dems that the U.S. would use such "barbaric" and "inhumane" techniques (Barf!).

The article stated that the Congress, including Pelosi, had been briefed in 2003. She asked if it was "harsh" enough to get rusults.

Sorry, I can't find a link.

12 posted on 04/13/2008 12:04:20 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Jay777

The US government does NOT torture.


13 posted on 04/13/2008 12:05:56 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Grizzled Bear

Here’s the meat of the story: Sorry no link.

Pelosi declined to comment directly on her reaction to the classified briefings. But a congressional source familiar with Pelosi’s position on the matter said the California lawmaker did recall discussions about enhanced interrogation. The source said Pelosi recalls that techniques described by the CIA were still in the planning stage — they had been designed and cleared with agency lawyers but not yet put in practice — and acknowledged that Pelosi did not raise objections at the time.


14 posted on 04/13/2008 12:15:08 PM PDT by Chuck54
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To: FFranco

The US government does NOT torture.

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That’s true of course. The methods we do use are already effective, there is no need for torture and the possible psychological effects that administering torture could cause to our people.

But, torture, although it seems usually unwise and inappropriate, is certainly constitutional and legal and is not a civil rights issue when we’re talking about unlawful combatants and terrorists.


15 posted on 04/13/2008 12:24:32 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Jay777

Does this mean the American Taxpayer will be footing the bill the aclu investigators will be running up to invesitage the adminstrations TORTURE (panties on the head) and ABUSE (making these arabs take a bath and wear clean clothes)? Seems we pay everytime one of America’s privileges is taken away and NOW asking a terrorist a question is called TORTURE AND ABUSE. I think we should STOP paying the aclu. They’re grubby little hands do us NO favor.


16 posted on 04/13/2008 1:06:07 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Jay777
I've read that the CIA has waterboarded a grand total of four Islamoturds. Several more Naval Aviators were waterboarded in my SERE School class in 1978.
17 posted on 04/13/2008 2:09:30 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Give unto Caesar when you wish. Support the Fair Tax.)
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We have always known that the CIA’s use of torture was approved from the very top levels of the U.S. government, yet the latest revelations about knowledge from the president himself and authorization from his top advisers only confirms our worst fears,” said Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU

Bite me,
and I see a rope and tree in your future.when we have a Belsen or nuclear 9/11 in this country

18 posted on 04/13/2008 2:42:47 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: wastedyears

Bring me some ACLU people and I will SHOW THEM TORTURE AND ABUSE!


19 posted on 04/13/2008 3:14:22 PM PDT by buffyt (Carbon Credits = the Indulgences of the Church of Glowbull Warming!)
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To: Jay777
The ACLU is one of the most monied organizations in America and yet to my knowledge they have never been sued for any damage they have done to all the people of the nation. Why is that?
20 posted on 04/13/2008 7:06:55 PM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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