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Key scientist sure "God particle" will be found soon
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 04/07/2008 | Robert Evans

Posted on 04/07/2008 8:05:12 PM PDT by rpage3

GENEVA (Reuters) - British physicist Peter Higgs said on Monday it should soon be possible to prove the existence of a force which gives mass to the universe and makes life possible -- as he first argued 40 years ago.

Higgs said he believes a particle named the "Higgs boson," which originates from the force, will be found when a vast particle collider at the CERN research centre on the Franco-Swiss border begins operating fully early next year.

"The likelihood is that the particle will show up pretty quickly ... I'm more than 90 percent certain that it will," Higgs told journalists.

The 78-year-old's original efforts in the early 1960s to explain why the force, dubbed the Higgs field, must exist were dismissed at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

Today, the existence of the invisible field is widely accepted by scientists, who believe it came into being milliseconds after the Big Bang created the universe some 15 billion years ago.

Finding the Higgs boson would prove this theory right.

CERN's new Large Hadron Collider (LHC) aims to simulate conditions at the time of that primeval inferno by smashing particles together at near light-speed and so unlock many secrets of the universe.

Higgs was in Geneva to visit CERN for the first time in 13 years in advance of the launch.

Scientists at the centre hope the process will produce clear signs of the boson, dubbed the "God particle" by some, to the displeasure of Higgs, an atheist.

He came up with his theory to explain why mass disappears as matter is broken down to its smallest constituent parts -- molecules, atoms and quarks.

BIG BANG

The normally media-shy physicist, who has spent most of his career at Scotland's Edinburgh University, postulated that matter was weightless at the exact moment of the Big Bang and then much of it promptly gained mass.

This, he argued, must be due to a field which stuck to particles as they passed through it and made them heavy. If this had not happened, matter would have floated free in space and stars and planets would never have formed.

Higgs said he hoped the elusive boson -- which an earlier but less powerful collider at CERN and another at the U.S. Fermilab had failed to detect -- would be identified before his 80th birthday in 2009.

"If it doesn't," he said, "I shall be very, very puzzled."

But there may be no immediate visible proof -- despite some fanciful portrayals of what it might look like -- of the boson's appearance on the ultra-sophisticated computers used by CERN scientists to track the billions of collisions in the LHC.

"It all happens so fast that the appearance of the boson may be hidden in the data collected, and it could take a long time for the analysis to find it," said Higgs.

"I may have to keep the champagne on ice for a while yet."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackholes; god; higgsboson; particle; physics; science; stringtheory
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Interesting.
1 posted on 04/07/2008 8:05:12 PM PDT by rpage3
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To: rpage3

If they found the Higgs particle, it would be a really, really big deal!


2 posted on 04/07/2008 8:07:47 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: rpage3
This, he argued, must be due to a field which stuck to particles as they passed through it and made them heavy. If this had not happened, matter would have floated free in space and stars and planets would never have formed.

I believe this field is called "gravity". Now, where's my Nobel prize?

3 posted on 04/07/2008 8:18:01 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: rpage3

bump


4 posted on 04/07/2008 8:19:10 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: rpage3

But the main thing that needs to be pointed out is that this new accelerator has cost a bazillion Euros to build, so of COURSE they’ll be suggesting that it may find God.

(In a particle, no less)

Otherwise they blow their cover.


5 posted on 04/07/2008 8:25:07 PM PDT by Supercharged Merlin (The way to take money out of politics is to take the politics out of money !)
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To: mathprof

A big deal that would just lead to more questions.

The larger the land of known, the greater the coastline of unknown.


6 posted on 04/07/2008 8:25:43 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: mathprof

And if they don’t find the Higgs particle, it will be an even bigger deal.


7 posted on 04/07/2008 8:28:20 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: mathprof
Higgs is just tooting his own horn, it's all about money anyway. t=dKE=m=(W>P or WP and decel = W>P]. Thus "time" is a quantum movie because of the temporary imbalance between the 2 great languages of complementarity, the wave-particle duality. not-t=PE=M=(W=P) is the other formula. You can prove this quite easily : demonstrate a time event that is NOT a kinetic energy event at some rate. Or ask higgs to do it...
8 posted on 04/07/2008 8:30:39 PM PDT by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: Moonman62
And if they don’t find the Higgs particle, it will be an even bigger deal.

Very much agreed. I think they will find it from what I know. Hopefully, they'll find more.

9 posted on 04/07/2008 8:30:49 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: rpage3

May the Force be with you?

Obi-Wan Kenobi: The Force is an energy field. It surrounds us, penetrates us, it binds the Galaxy together.”

Or something to that effect. :)


10 posted on 04/07/2008 8:32:58 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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gives mass to the universe and makes life possible

Look out the window Mr. Higgs, do you see creation, every creation has a creator, and our Heavenly Creator is the one Who gives mass to the universe and makes live possible. I rest my case.

11 posted on 04/07/2008 8:37:39 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: Supercharged Merlin

Most physicists dislike the term “God Particle” and don’t use it. However the MSM is infatuated with it and never miss an opportunity to us it.


12 posted on 04/07/2008 8:40:55 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: garylmoore

So should we shut down all science and stare aimlessly out the window regarding every unanswered question?


13 posted on 04/07/2008 8:41:39 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Nachoman

The Higgs field and gravity are two different things though related in some way.


14 posted on 04/07/2008 8:43:25 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

10 out of 10 rabbits say yes :P


15 posted on 04/07/2008 8:43:37 PM PDT by modest proposal
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To: garylmoore

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

There’s your “boson” Mr. Higgs! Right there in verse 17. The Lord Jesus Christ created it all and He is holding it all together.


16 posted on 04/07/2008 8:46:56 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: rpage3
God is a particle, the Godon. When the Godon is discovered, all debate and myths regarding creation will be laid to rest. [/sarc]
17 posted on 04/07/2008 8:53:35 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Tucker39

shucks, you beat me to it :-)


18 posted on 04/07/2008 8:55:07 PM PDT by prophetic (I'm not afraid of calling his full name: Obama's full name is BARAK HUSSIEN OBAMA!!)
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To: garylmoore
That begs the question about the creator of the Heavenly Creator. A spontaneous creation theory as to the origin of the Heavely Creator does not answer the question, just as saying the Heavenly Creator existed from t= - infinity to t= + infinity does not. Saying a Heavenly Creator created everything is avoiding the question.

Lest there be any doubt I am not suggesting we are not the result of creation, I believe we are. But there are still many unanswered questions.

19 posted on 04/07/2008 9:01:18 PM PDT by libh8er (The govt is a special interest body like any other that only looks after its own interests.)
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To: rpage3

bkmark for later. Thanks


20 posted on 04/07/2008 9:01:55 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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