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I Said: 1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. That's pretty simple and that is our theology,

U Said: That is if you are into Greek Mythology.

Actually, as a computer nerd, that'd be Geek mythology.

I Said: Again with the fantasy world? Polygamy can be very confusing simply because people did not understand what they were doing (like the women who were claiming their children were Joseph's when he never slept with them and genetic studies prove the children were not his.) that can make for confusing stories, the woman who claimed to be a wife of Joseph's until it was proved she was never even in the same state with him before he died. That whole thing is a mess, polygamy is not supposed to b that way, but it was.

U Said: Becomes even more confusing when you deliberately misstate Joey's history too (Is this another lie????) First you go for the Joey wasn't a polygamist, next you swerve into red herring stories of other wives - ignoring the documented ones he married, but he never slept with them - inspite of the biographies of those same women who make it clear otherwise. No kids, well fertility only happens over a short period and Joey couldn't live his second life for fear of Emma, and who knows, maybe Joey's little joeys just weren't that perky. Confused, DU's answers with conflicting answers, he lives in the state of confusion - probably has his own zip code by now.

Wow, Apparently little old me is really getting under your skin, first there's the deliberate belittling of Joseph Smith by constantly calling him Joey, which is an obvious attempt to tick me of and have me respond unreasonably, LOL!
Second, you claim I am Deliberately misstating history and ask if that 's a lie.
Third, You say I said Joseph was not a polygamist, I NEVER said that.
As for the never slept with them, wasn't i just told that about Moses and his other wife? LOL! Is there any documented proof that Joseph ever fathered children with any of these polygamous wives? Is there any proof that Joseph was fertile? Is there any proof these other women were fertile?

Fourth, you claim Joseph was infertile? ROTFLOL! Joseph had nine children by Emma, nine, how many children do you have Godzilla?

This is funny, you claim to be this intellectual giant, yet your Attacks boil down to Derogatory names, calling your opponent a liar, misstating your opponents position, and the questioning of manhood of someone who is dead. Not very impressive, off night?

Now that I have dispatched with your prurient red herrings, back to the Question, do you have any proof that the Bible forbids the practice of polygamy?

I wonder, since there is nothing in the bible specifically prohibiting smoking, or drinking coffee, why do the cultists like Delf take such behavior as grounds of removing temple worthiness? Bwahahahaha, the Delf never disappoints, he can always post an inanity when things are slow at FR. ... And will he now post a six pager to try and retrieve something from the absolute smack down of his juvenile Greek 'scholarship' by conservativegramma?

The number of “LOLs”, “ROTFLOLs” and such is increasing, so you must have pricked the Delf’s morn-nerve.

Actually, as a computer nerd, that'd be Geek mythology.

Never the less, mormonism polytheism has more in common with the Greek/Roman pantheon than biblical monotheism.

Wow, Apparently little old me is really getting under your skin, first there's the deliberate belittling of Joseph Smith by constantly calling him Joey, which is an obvious attempt to tick me of and have me respond unreasonably, LOL!

You over inflate my estimation of you fluffy.

Second, you claim I am Deliberately misstating history and ask if that 's a lie. Third, You say I said Joseph was not a polygamist, I NEVER said that. As for the never slept with them, wasn't i just told that about Moses and his other wife? LOL! Is there any documented proof that Joseph ever fathered children with any of these polygamous wives? Is there any proof that Joseph was fertile? Is there any proof these other women were fertile?

You are reciting old mormon apologia that deflects polygamy from joey. In your quest to justify polygamy, you blatantly ignore the fact that any sex with those other women was adultery and any marriage outside of Emma was illegal by state and federal laws. He also violated the revelation of god by breaking those laws – Article 12 – which your former seer and prophet is on record as agreeing with mine (and others) observations.

Fourth, you claim Joseph was infertile? ROTFLOL! Joseph had nine children by Emma, nine, how many children do you have Godzilla?

Never made that claim, just a potential observation. Do you have proof that Emma did not have another husband.

This is funny, you claim to be this intellectual giant, yet your Attacks boil down to Derogatory names, calling your opponent a liar, misstating your opponents position, and the questioning of manhood of someone who is dead. Not very impressive, off night?

Cite for me where I have ever claimed to be an intellectual giant…..waiting……waiting….(crickets). If I remember correctly, you were the one who at one time claimed to be able to destroy any religious belief. Lessee, misrepresenting me to others AFTER you were corrected – YOUR criteria for lying. Misrepresenting the method of my earning a living (as well as others). Misrepresentation of other Christian doctrines. The fact that joey is dead is not an allie-allie oxen free to challenge him in anything relating to mormonism. Of course you need your peep stone retuned to understand proper greek translation methodology – even the very basic stuff like 1 Tim 3:2.

Now that I have dispatched with your prurient red herrings, back to the Question, do you have any proof that the Bible forbids the practice of polygamy?

One, you have yet to prove to me that God approved of the polygamy recorded in the OT rather than tolerated it, due to the hardness of men’s hearts. Secondly, Jesus corrected the record in His teachings on marriage and divorce as well as 1Tim 3:2 (and others). In fact Joey in the JST agrees fully – one wife – NOT first wife, but one, period. Isn’t that just a pain when the broken clock is right.

Fourth, you claim Joseph was infertile? ROTFLOL! Joseph had nine children by Emma, nine, how many children do you have Godzilla?

This is funny, you claim to be this intellectual giant, yet your Attacks boil down to Derogatory names, calling your opponent a liar, misstating your opponents position, and the questioning of manhood of someone who is dead. Not very impressive, off night?

Now that I have dispatched with your prurient red herrings, back to the Question, do you have any proof that the Bible forbids the practice of polygamy?

3,680 posted on Monday, April 21, 2008 1:10:55 AM by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 132

51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to ^aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.

52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, ^areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.

53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been ^afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.

54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and ^acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be ^bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.

55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ^ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of ^beternal lives in the eternal worlds.

56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid ^aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to ^brejoice.

Eliza was a devout Mormon. At age 38, she became Joseph Smith's 14th plural wife (in addition to Smith's lawful wife, Emma).

In 1842, after learning Eliza was pregnant, Emma Smith beat Eliza with a broomstick and knocked her down a flight of stairs, causing Eliza to miscarry Smith's baby.

Wow!!

I guess ol' Emma got VAPORIZED by GOD!!!

We know that multiply him thing sure didn't work out!