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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: Colofornian

Selah!


3,361 posted on 04/16/2008 11:54:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: restornu
he will receive a resurected body of Flesh and Bone just like the Only Begotten Son of Heavenly Father ...and if he is worthy he will dwell in Heaven where the Father and Son reside.

Sorry; but there is no AND!

"Worthiness" comes ONLY by trusting in Christ: NO amount of WORKS will 'increase' his worth.

3,362 posted on 04/16/2008 11:56:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
These warning and verses are not tangents they are from the LORD!
 


2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Like THESE guys??
 
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 


 
Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
 7.  which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
 9.  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
 
 
 
ANYBODY???
 
Like this fine looking fellow???
 
 
 
 

Ephesians 2:1-2
   As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,  in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

3,363 posted on 04/16/2008 11:58:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The Lord does not pick and choose to what feel good if one tramples on the Lord servants it is like trampling on the Lord

No; it isn't.

3,364 posted on 04/16/2008 11:58:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
I love that had to pinned down...

No doubt!!

3,365 posted on 04/16/2008 12:04:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
6:4 [ Hebrew Font Size: – / + | Toggle Font ] [ View in: LXX | Side-by-side ]

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in (8799) unto the daughters of men, and they bare (8804) children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The Sons of GOD were NOT angels.

Thinking that the SYNTAX (order of the words) is similar to english gets one into trouble.

3,366 posted on 04/16/2008 12:07:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You forgot to mention the Temple is House of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Ordinances come from the Lord Jesus Christ

Sorry; but NOTHING was FORGOTTEN!

Your Temple did NOT come from 'the lord', but from your prophet's mind!

There is NOTHING in your SCRIPTUREs that tells you to build a TEMPLE!

There is NOTHING in your SCRIPTURES that tells you what to DO in that building.

3,367 posted on 04/16/2008 12:09:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Rom 1:16 ¶ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Making up visitations, false translations, heretical teachings)
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, (Kinderhook plates, Book of Breathing - Book of Abraham, Greek Psalter)
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. (God has a physical body)
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: (Polygamy, polyandry and adultry - started by Smith)
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. (No man shall enter heaven without Smith's OK)

3,368 posted on 04/16/2008 12:09:39 PM PDT by Godzilla (We are the land of the free because of the brave.)
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To: DelphiUser
Admin moderator: I am sorry to bother you, I am not requesting your help in any way shape or form, IMHO the tactics used by my opponents sheds far more light on them than it does on me and I am happy to have them continue to display to the world their ignorance, mean spiritedness and general lack of thought (not aimed at any one poster, thanks just my general observation) I realize that you have a lot to do on these boards and the last thing you need is someone running to you for "protection", I am not asking for any, thanks, go about your business and I hope you have a pleasant day.

I helped you a bit - he(she?) may have overlooked this in all the chaff that is blowing about.

Now you can inhale.

3,369 posted on 04/16/2008 12:12:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
Even if you are not yet ready for more of God's words...

Oh bull!

Your founders could not even KEEP the small amount of GOD's word they already had - why get more?

3,370 posted on 04/16/2008 12:14:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
...all you need to do is Put our religion to"the test"
 
Uh... it HAS been tested; and FLUNKED!!
 


2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Like THESE guys??
 
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 


 
Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
 7.  which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
 9.  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
 
 
 
ANYBODY???
 
Like this fine looking fellow???
 
 
 
 

Ephesians 2:1-2
   As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,  in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

3,371 posted on 04/16/2008 12:15:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
If all our efforts are as filthy rags, then why do Mormons teach that we go through Jesus only AFTER we have done all we can?

By your own admission, Jesus paid it all. Why do Mormons add works?

Jesus did offer salvation to those who believe and accepted it.

Jesus also expects us to try to strive to follow and keep his Commandment to the best of our abilities and than after all we can do he will cover the different.

How much weight do you give to Keep my Commandments?

We know to be perfect in this world is impossible but I also believe many believe they can through Jesus Christ make a good effort and one can while doing this learn a lot by doing a one on one with the Lord in our life each day showing the way.

More than working towards being perfect one learns a lot about themselves and getting closer to the Lord, and through our efforts then the Lord is able to magnify, build and uplift us beyond our abilities.

Without trying to walk that walk one would never know the hidden treasures that are within us.

After all we can do or practiced to get the body in line with the spirit of the Lord.

Remember what it was like when one was learning to ride a bike or play an instrument, it takes desire, focus and faith that one can do this.

What it shows is commitment, and not just a bump on the log who wants to go long for the ride, which is a very poorer kind of grace.

Our body, mind and soul has to be in harmony to enter the Kingdom of the Lord or this child will not endure the light.

In all of the accounts that I have read where the Lord translate or elevates one to see him that mortal can only be sustain for a brief amount of time before returning back to earth.

We as a finished product have to have worked at aligning the body in this life time or we will not be able to endure, therefore we will not be able to go there.

Those who make it, have submitted themselves to the refiner’s fire.

3,372 posted on 04/16/2008 12:17:13 PM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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To: restornu
The scriptures give us a lot of clues and even when we read some passages of the NT do we feel the strong presents of the Spirit of the Lord there is none else like it.

Some?

SOME? SOME? SOME!!!

3,373 posted on 04/16/2008 12:17:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Twisting my words again it is you guys who accuse the LDS as being anti Christian...

Well; last time I checked; you ARE ANTI-Christian!!!


 


 
 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
Would you care to explain what is UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM???

3,374 posted on 04/16/2008 12:19:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: conservativegramma

I can only conclue your frustration you have dull ears!


3,375 posted on 04/16/2008 12:19:24 PM PDT by restornu (They allow this little quibble over scripture to blind them!)
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To: metmom
So I need a fragmented brain?

It appears do!

Just look at how well Resty can hold all the opposing theories of MORMONISM in her head!

3,376 posted on 04/16/2008 12:20:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
So I need a fragmented brain?

It appears So!

Just look at how well Resty can hold all the opposing theories of MORMONISM in her head!

3,377 posted on 04/16/2008 12:20:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Probably looks like the inside of a popcorn popper.


3,378 posted on 04/16/2008 12:21:05 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: restornu
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;

She that hath a brain, let her use it to understand that GOD did not use a man named Joseph Smith.

HE already used a man called Immanuel; for HE has saved HIS people from their sins.

3,379 posted on 04/16/2008 12:22:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
It's called perspective, from my perspective you are the one jumping through hoops and squeezing through gaps in logic.

1 Corinthians 13:11

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

3,380 posted on 04/16/2008 12:24:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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